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guido
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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 6:07 pm Post subject: bit of trivia..word origin |
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When the Americans first landed here in Korea in the 50s...the Koreans were running around screaming MIGOOK, MIGOOK....the Americans thought they were saying Me Gook...so thats how they got the nickname gook....aint dat fascinating |
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nicholas_chiasson

Joined: 14 Jun 2007 Location: Samcheok
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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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-Actually the word predates the 1950's. |
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guido
Joined: 13 Sep 2006
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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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nicholas_chiasson wrote: |
-Actually the word predates the 1950's. |
Thanks for that info....I will edit my book "Origins of derogatory words" before it is published next month.
You have saved me a lot of professional embarrassment.
Thank you so much Mr Chiasson. |
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rumdiary

Joined: 05 Jun 2006
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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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awful/awesome
Why is only having some awe better than being full of awe? |
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Hater Depot
Joined: 29 Mar 2005
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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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Awful used to mean awe-inspiring. |
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mistermasan
Joined: 20 Sep 2007 Location: 10+ yrs on Dave's ESL cafe
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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 11:48 pm Post subject: |
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in chinese, america is mei guo. koreans say this as migook. the western derogatory term gook is probably an imitation ala the baba in babel, babylonia and barbarian.who ever the first gooks were it is my guess they sounded quite gutteral.
the etymology of derogatory terms is fascinating. if you ever have a friend from niger listern to how he says niger. with their french influence it is real easy to see the start of the n word. similarily, growing up we had a word that was just as scandalous to use as the n word: jigaboo. we kids thought it was just a term crabby old guys used. it wasn't until many years later i met someone from djiubuti and the etymology of that one came into clarity. |
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nicholas_chiasson

Joined: 14 Jun 2007 Location: Samcheok
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 2:49 am Post subject: |
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gook
1899, U.S. military slang for "Filipino" during the insurrection there, probably from a native word, or imitative of the babbling sound of their language to American ears (cf. barbarian). The term goo-goo eyes "soft, seductive eyes" was in vogue c.1900 and may have contributed to this somehow. Extended over time to "Nicaraguan," "any Pacific Islander" (World War II), "Korean" (1950s), "Vietnamese" and "any Asian" (1960s). |
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schwa
Joined: 18 Jan 2003 Location: Yap
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 2:54 am Post subject: |
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nicholas_chiasson wrote: |
gook
1899, U.S. military slang for "Filipino" during the insurrection there, probably from a native word, or imitative of the babbling sound of their language to American ears (cf. barbarian). The term goo-goo eyes "soft, seductive eyes" was in vogue c.1900 and may have contributed to this somehow. Extended over time to "Nicaraguan," "any Pacific Islander" (World War II), "Korean" (1950s), "Vietnamese" and "any Asian" (1960s). |
Attributions are nice. This info comes from www.etymonline.com -- an awesome resource for those interested in word roots. |
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guido
Joined: 13 Sep 2006
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 3:26 am Post subject: |
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whatever the truth of origin is, I really love the image of a bunck of Koreans running around screaming MIGOOK MIGOOK |
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nicholas_chiasson

Joined: 14 Jun 2007 Location: Samcheok
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 4:33 am Post subject: |
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schwa wrote: |
nicholas_chiasson wrote: |
gook
1899, U.S. military slang for "Filipino" during the insurrection there, probably from a native word, or imitative of the babbling sound of their language to American ears (cf. barbarian). The term goo-goo eyes "soft, seductive eyes" was in vogue c.1900 and may have contributed to this somehow. Extended over time to "Nicaraguan," "any Pacific Islander" (World War II), "Korean" (1950s), "Vietnamese" and "any Asian" (1960s). |
Attributions are nice. This info comes from www.etymonline.com -- an awesome resource for those interested in word roots. |
I like to think my days of citationsare over. DavesESLcafe is not a peer reviewed journal |
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