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guido



Joined: 13 Sep 2006

PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 6:07 pm    Post subject: bit of trivia..word origin Reply with quote

When the Americans first landed here in Korea in the 50s...the Koreans were running around screaming MIGOOK, MIGOOK....the Americans thought they were saying Me Gook...so thats how they got the nickname gook....aint dat fascinating
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nicholas_chiasson



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

-Actually the word predates the 1950's.
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guido



Joined: 13 Sep 2006

PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nicholas_chiasson wrote:
-Actually the word predates the 1950's.

Thanks for that info....I will edit my book "Origins of derogatory words" before it is published next month.
You have saved me a lot of professional embarrassment.
Thank you so much Mr Chiasson.
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rumdiary



Joined: 05 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

awful/awesome
Why is only having some awe better than being full of awe?
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Hater Depot



Joined: 29 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awful used to mean awe-inspiring.
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mistermasan



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

in chinese, america is mei guo. koreans say this as migook. the western derogatory term gook is probably an imitation ala the baba in babel, babylonia and barbarian.who ever the first gooks were it is my guess they sounded quite gutteral.

the etymology of derogatory terms is fascinating. if you ever have a friend from niger listern to how he says niger. with their french influence it is real easy to see the start of the n word. similarily, growing up we had a word that was just as scandalous to use as the n word: jigaboo. we kids thought it was just a term crabby old guys used. it wasn't until many years later i met someone from djiubuti and the etymology of that one came into clarity.
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nicholas_chiasson



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 2:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gook
1899, U.S. military slang for "Filipino" during the insurrection there, probably from a native word, or imitative of the babbling sound of their language to American ears (cf. barbarian). The term goo-goo eyes "soft, seductive eyes" was in vogue c.1900 and may have contributed to this somehow. Extended over time to "Nicaraguan," "any Pacific Islander" (World War II), "Korean" (1950s), "Vietnamese" and "any Asian" (1960s).
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schwa



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 2:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nicholas_chiasson wrote:
gook
1899, U.S. military slang for "Filipino" during the insurrection there, probably from a native word, or imitative of the babbling sound of their language to American ears (cf. barbarian). The term goo-goo eyes "soft, seductive eyes" was in vogue c.1900 and may have contributed to this somehow. Extended over time to "Nicaraguan," "any Pacific Islander" (World War II), "Korean" (1950s), "Vietnamese" and "any Asian" (1960s).

Attributions are nice. This info comes from www.etymonline.com -- an awesome resource for those interested in word roots.
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guido



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 3:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

whatever the truth of origin is, I really love the image of a bunck of Koreans running around screaming MIGOOK MIGOOK
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nicholas_chiasson



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 4:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

schwa wrote:
nicholas_chiasson wrote:
gook
1899, U.S. military slang for "Filipino" during the insurrection there, probably from a native word, or imitative of the babbling sound of their language to American ears (cf. barbarian). The term goo-goo eyes "soft, seductive eyes" was in vogue c.1900 and may have contributed to this somehow. Extended over time to "Nicaraguan," "any Pacific Islander" (World War II), "Korean" (1950s), "Vietnamese" and "any Asian" (1960s).

Attributions are nice. This info comes from www.etymonline.com -- an awesome resource for those interested in word roots.


I like to think my days of citationsare over. DavesESLcafe is not a peer reviewed journal
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