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Unposter



Joined: 04 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 9:16 pm    Post subject: "Funny" incident at the Airport Reply with quote

I am not much for telling every little experience one has in Korea, but I just want to discuss this with some people who might find it as interesting as I did (i.e. people who are not Koreans).

For background information, I have a F-5 visa.

Anyway, I am checking in at the airport. The check-in clerk, who just happened to be male, asks for my passport. I give it to him. Without even looking at my passport, he says something like you know you probably need a re-entry visa. I say something like I don't think so... Anyway, he looks at my passport and he says yep, you need a re-entry visa. So, I tell him I don't think so, I have an F-5 visa. So, he goes no, I think you need a re-entry stamp.

Now, here is where things get interesting...

Again, I give him the funny look and say are you sure? And, he says ok, I'll call immigration. So, he gets on the phone and says a lot of things in Korean -- about all I understand is F-5 visa, which he says in English.

Anyway, he gets off the phone and says yes, you do have to get a re-entry stamp.

So, I'm a little suprised but take his word for it - what am I supposed to do? So, I ask where can I get this stamp? And, he asks me, can you read Korean?

I say yes, and he writes something in Hangeul on my itinerary paper.

At this time, a female check-in clerk turns to him and says in English, what kind of visa does he have? And the male check-in clerk attending me says an F-5 and she goes I don't think he needs a re-entry stamp. And, she proceeds to hand him a notebook. I see that there is a lot of handwriting on it and you can see a spot where it is written, "F2 F5."

He looks at the paper and turns to me and says you don't need a re-entry stamp.

So, I look at him and I ask him are you sure, you just talked to immigration. And, he tells me no, you don't need a re-entry stamp. He hands me my boarding pass, my frequent flyer card, passport etc...

And, I say thank you, you have been very kind and his face just kind of fell.

Anyway, what I want to know is:

1) Did he lie about calling immigration?
2) Did the immigration officer he talked to not know immigration law?
3) Was he trying to harrass me?
4) Was the guy just a total idiot or half-asleep?
5) Was he stoned out of his mind?
6) Something else?
7) Some combination of the above?
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shaunew



Joined: 17 Apr 2007
Location: Calgary

PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is Korea, you ask one officer one thing they tell you what they think and then you ask another and they will tell you something totally different. My experience is if you ask a question and don't like the result wait and ask again and you should get the information you want.
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laogaiguk



Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea

PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

shaunew wrote:
This is Korea, you ask one officer one thing they tell you what they think and then you ask another and they will tell you something totally different. My experience is if you ask a question and don't like the result wait and ask again and you should get the information you want.


The scary thing is that is quite true Sad
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 11:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Did the immigration officer he talked to not know immigration law?


I think it's that one. I think shaunew is right. Korea is trying to establish the rule of law, but it hasn't arrived at the goal yet. One of the causes is that people get shifted from office to office on a regular basis, which as far as I can tell means: As soon as you start to get a handle on the things in one office you will be moved to a new one. Everyone is a perpetual beginner.
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the eye



Joined: 29 Jan 2004

PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 11:09 pm    Post subject: Re: "Funny" incident at the Airport Reply with quote

Unposter wrote:


Anyway, what I want to know is:

1) Did he lie about calling immigration?
2) Did the immigration officer he talked to not know immigration law?
3) Was he trying to harrass me?
4) Was the guy just a total idiot or half-asleep?
5) Was he stoned out of his mind?
6) Something else?
7) Some combination of the above?


Well, i for one am appalled at the level of negativity in your post!
The nerve! trying to suggest this kind of thing can happen here!!
You should have just gone to another airport!!!!

Homer!!! Milwaukiedave!!! Save us all again with some more of your wisdom!!!
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Hollywoodaction



Joined: 02 Jul 2004

PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:
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Did the immigration officer he talked to not know immigration law?


I think it's that one. I think shaunew is right. Korea is trying to establish the rule of law, but it hasn't arrived at the goal yet. One of the causes is that people get shifted from office to office on a regular basis, which as far as I can tell means: As soon as you start to get a handle on the things in one office you will be moved to a new one. Everyone is a perpetual beginner.


Yes, but that's no excuse.

I used to work for Immigration in Canada. Never would we give out information without being 100% sure that it was accurate and factual. If any of us had any questions, we'd ask the other more experienced employees. If they didn't know the facts, they'd always asked the supervisor. If the supervisor didn't know for sure, she'd call the Ministry in Ottawa. It's that simple. You know it or you don't. Our customers wanted facts, not our opinion.
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Major Kong



Joined: 29 Oct 2007
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Immi would never give info freely!
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Ilsanman



Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea

PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

#2 for sure. But it's a sad and almost frightening thing to see. I don't blame the guy at the desk, he's probably never even seen an F-5 visa before. But the immigration officer should be fired.
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Unposter



Joined: 04 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 1:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay, fair enough. But, I still wonder why he believed his co-worker over the immigration officer. Wouldn't one think the immigration officer know what he or she is talking about? I mean as soon as his co-worker showed him her notebook that was all he needed to be certain that what the immigration officer said was wrong.

Anyway, all is speculation and I guess I should just assume it was one of those strange cases where the check-in clerk was just trying to inform me of what I needed to do but got all his information incorrect.
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dannylelievre



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 3:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have had stupid fights with immigration at the airport. I dont know, I thought it was absurd for them to require me to get a re-entry permit on my visa (i'm american, we are automatically issue multiple entry visas) simply because I had my visa extended. I figured, you extend a multiple entry visa into the same multiple entry visa, no? This happened to anyone else before?
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Cheonmunka



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look, people, I've waited at Adelaide airport in Australia with my family, after arriving first in the queque, for one and a half hours at the desk because the Australians couldn't work out the customs situation for my wife. We only stayed in Australia seven days.
There might be staff who don't know better, but in other countries you can experience worse problems.
As the Op said it might be interesting for F people to know, agreed, but further bashing and extrapolating on the Korean condition is not necessary.
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MissSeoul



Joined: 25 Oct 2006
Location: Somewhere in America

PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheonmunka wrote:

As the Op said it might be interesting for F people to know, agreed, but further bashing and extrapolating on the Korean condition is not necessary.



I think OP is paranoid.
When I fly to Saudi Arabia years ago, a Saudi guy at custom check has found the word " PORK " on one of my cook recipes ( I remember it was something to do with pancake ) and I was in a serious trouble ( This is not a joke, it really have happened ).
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Hyeon Een



Joined: 24 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dannylelievre wrote:
I have had stupid fights with immigration at the airport. I dont know, I thought it was absurd for them to require me to get a re-entry permit on my visa (i'm american, we are automatically issue multiple entry visas) simply because I had my visa extended. I figured, you extend a multiple entry visa into the same multiple entry visa, no? This happened to anyone else before?


Haha is that true? I'm British and we don't automatically get a Multiple re-entry visa but it IS free if we apply for one.

I was at the Anguk immi office a few weeks ago with two americans who both paid around $60 for a multiple re-entry visa. It would amuse me if they'd paid unnecessarily Wink
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Beej



Joined: 05 Mar 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dannylelievre wrote:
I have had stupid fights with immigration at the airport. I dont know, I thought it was absurd for them to require me to get a re-entry permit on my visa (i'm american, we are automatically issue multiple entry visas) simply because I had my visa extended. I figured, you extend a multiple entry visa into the same multiple entry visa, no? This happened to anyone else before?


You were wrong. For Americans, the multiple entry visa is only good for the first year. When you extend your visa, you must specify multiple entry and pay 50,000 won. If you dont do this, its not mulitple entry anymore.
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Otus



Joined: 09 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Miss Seoul wrote:

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I think OP is paranoid.
When I fly to Saudi Arabia years ago, a Saudi guy at custom check has found the word " PORK " on one of my cook recipes ( I remember it was something to do with pancake ) and I was in a serious trouble ( This is not a joke, it really have happened ).


Ah ... now we know the truth. Miss Seoul was a Korean foreign laborer in the Middle East ... That's why she doesn't like foreign teachers in Korea.
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