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Alpha-Epsilon
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 Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 9:44 pm Post subject: Friend got deported |
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My friend from a band had been deported from here for overstaying his visa over two years ago. He now wants to join up with us again, and needs to know if he can return, or what the regulations are.
We heard that if you get deported for overstaying your visa you only have to wait two years. Or is it longer? 'Ppreciate any advice. |
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ED209
Joined: 17 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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Since the left hand doesn't know what the right is doing I'd say keep quiet and just apply in new area. Although does he have a black stamp in his passport? That would make things a lot more difficult.
He could call immigration or his closest consulate, but you may hear different things from different officials. |
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SuperFly
Joined: 09 Jul 2003
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| Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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| I heard it was five years. Guy I knew went and legally changed his first name, then got a new passport. Came right back a few months after he was deported. |
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moosehead
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| Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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| ED209 wrote: |
Since the left hand doesn't know what the right is doing I'd say keep quiet and just apply in new area. Although does he have a black stamp in his passport? That would make things a lot more difficult.
He could call immigration or his closest consulate, but you may hear different things from different officials. |
yeah even if he has any kind of stamp he can always "lose" his pp and get a new one - then apply again |
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browneyedgirl
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| Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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| SuperFly wrote: |
| I heard it was five years. Guy I knew went and legally changed his first name, then got a new passport. Came right back a few months after he was deported. |
Was he American? I ask because I've wanted to change my name, but I heard it was a long, expensive process. |
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ultra
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Location: Book Han Gook Land Of Opportunity
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| Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 12:14 am Post subject: |
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| I've met two people who were deported and in both cases they were permitted to return after a two year period. |
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ryouga013
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| Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 2:24 am Post subject: |
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| browneyedgirl wrote: |
| SuperFly wrote: |
| I heard it was five years. Guy I knew went and legally changed his first name, then got a new passport. Came right back a few months after he was deported. |
Was he American? I ask because I've wanted to change my name, but I heard it was a long, expensive process. |
Changing your name is not a long nor a difficult operation. At least, my friend was able to change his name for about $25 and a trip to a court. Maybe it wasn't so bad because he didn't remove any of his given names, he just added two. He was known as "Mugsy" from the time he was about 2months old and it stuck with him. Figuring he'd get his money's worth he went from
Nathanial Kennedy Carter >>to>> Mugsy Nathanial Danger Kennedy Carter. |
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Ryst Helmut
Joined: 26 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 3:53 am Post subject: |
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An American colleague got busted with some 16 kgs (or lbs...can never remember which) of mary jane (yes, 16). Was in jail for months and then deported. He was informed he was not allowed back for 10 years. The following year he came back with (before leaving Korean girlfriend...upon arrival in Korea she's his wife) his wife and newborn.
Had a good visit and went back Stateside.
If he can get back in, then I'd wager your buddy has a good chance.
!shoosh,
Ryst |
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jeffkim1972
Joined: 10 Jan 2007
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| Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 4:18 am Post subject: |
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| What are you wasting your time asking here? Ask Immigration. |
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Horangi Munshin
Joined: 06 Apr 2003
Location: Busan
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| Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 4:28 am Post subject: |
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| ryouga013 wrote: |
| browneyedgirl wrote: |
| SuperFly wrote: |
| I heard it was five years. Guy I knew went and legally changed his first name, then got a new passport. Came right back a few months after he was deported. |
Was he American? I ask because I've wanted to change my name, but I heard it was a long, expensive process. |
Changing your name is not a long nor a difficult operation. At least, my friend was able to change his name for about $25 and a trip to a court. Maybe it wasn't so bad because he didn't remove any of his given names, he just added two. He was known as "Mugsy" from the time he was about 2months old and it stuck with him. Figuring he'd get his money's worth he went from
Nathanial Kennedy Carter >>to>> Mugsy Nathanial Danger Kennedy Carter. |
So I'm guessing degree verification would be a nightmare! |
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Young FRANKenstein
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| Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 5:16 am Post subject: |
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The rule is usually five years, as someone said above, but people have come back before then. It depends on the seriousness of the immigration violation and the mood of the immigration officer. Overstaying by two months? That's pretty serious, in my book. (Edit: sorry I misread "two years ago" as "two months")
Your friend will never know unless he tries to apply for a visa. Immigration will not tell you over the phone; they'll just tell you to apply and wait.
| ryouga013 wrote: |
Changing your name is not a long nor a difficult operation. At least, my friend was able to change his name for about $25 and a trip to a court. Maybe it wasn't so bad because he didn't remove any of his given names, he just added two. He was known as "Mugsy" from the time he was about 2months old and it stuck with him. Figuring he'd get his money's worth he went from
Nathanial Kennedy Carter >>to>> Mugsy Nathanial Danger Kennedy Carter. |
Not that easy when you consider you have now get you degrees and transcripts changed to match the new name. You think Immigration is going to accept the documetation for this "other person"?
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Young FRANKenstein
Joined: 02 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 5:17 am Post subject: |
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| jeffkim1972 wrote: |
| What are you wasting your time asking here? Ask Immigration. |
Immigration will not give such information. The repeated mantra they give is "Apply and wait to see if you're accepted." |
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jeffkim1972
Joined: 10 Jan 2007
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| Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 5:45 am Post subject: |
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| Young FRANKenstein wrote: |
| jeffkim1972 wrote: |
| What are you wasting your time asking here? Ask Immigration. |
Immigration will not give such information. The repeated mantra they give is "Apply and wait to see if you're accepted." |
But what other option do you have then? If you really want to come back, you have nothing to lose and just apply. Unless this is just an academic hypothetical question.
Even if you apply and are initially rejected, it might be always possible to state your case and be allowed back in.
Overstayed his visa how long? 1 day or 1 year? What situation caused the validity of his passport to come up? Let's face it, if we stay clean, we can technically stay here til we die avoiding anything that requires a Passport check.
Was it an arrest that caused him to get his passport checked? If your passport or visa expires, they don't come looking for you. |
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Young FRANKenstein
Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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| Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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| jeffkim1972 wrote: |
| Young FRANKenstein wrote: |
| jeffkim1972 wrote: |
| What are you wasting your time asking here? Ask Immigration. |
Immigration will not give such information. The repeated mantra they give is "Apply and wait to see if you're accepted." |
But what other option do you have then? If you really want to come back, you have nothing to lose and just apply. |
Absolutely. Asking won't get you an answer, but applying will. If you're asking the question because you want to come back, then just apply... they'll either let you in again or they'll tell you no. As you say, you may be able to state your case and get them to change their mind (difficult to do when you're on the outside looking in)
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| Overstayed his visa how long? 1 day or 1 year? What situation caused the validity of his passport to come up? |
One day, I can see them letting you off. Anything more than a couple weeks (even that seems too long to me) and I'd bet they enforce the ban. Teaching illegally will get you deported and banned just as quickly, and they have less tolerance for illegal teaching and lawbreaking in general than for overstaying. |
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wylies99
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| Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Why would anyone want to come back after being deported? What's so great about Korea? |
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