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bassexpander
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 Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 2:07 am Post subject: Videos from teachers thread |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DY7H_Li0blM
I've been looking around at some teacher videos. This one is of Sookmyung Women's University.
Please make a video of your uni, hagwon, or public school, and post it in this thread. This video includes housing, which is amazingly tiny!
Check out what rules there are at 7:15 in the video! |
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laogaiguk
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea
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| Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 2:23 am Post subject: |
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| Those rules are harsh. Does anyone know if they offer other housing. I wouldn't live there because of that. Still, some of the other stuff was somewhat petty and strange, like the elevators being far away (ohhh, a couple of floors) or why they had a Halloween party. Those are fun! |
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Hotpants
Joined: 27 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 3:05 am Post subject: |
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I know that there are a couple of big Korean hagwon chains that have a series of school/accomm videos up on YouTube as made by teachers - seemingly with the school's permission.
But do you think it is ethical to post videos of schools without permission from the school? Also, as soon as you start including footage of students in the school, especially children, you arguably start to cross over some legal boundaries.
I have posted videos for the purpose of information for prospective teachers. I didn't really intend them to become pieces of 'entertainment', although I guess it's inevitable that will happen somewhere along the line!!
Btw, I think that Sookmyung Women's University is a good university to work for. I think the video invariably points out the negative aspects, just because they are more quirkily noticeable. Just get your own accommodation. |
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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Hotpants wrote: |
But do you think it is ethical to post videos of schools without permission from the school? Also, as soon as you start including footage of students in the school, especially children, you arguably start to cross over some legal boundaries.
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And what legal boundaries were crossed here? What children were shown? And in what negative light?
On another note, what legal boundaries are you speaking of in reference to showing hagwons or children? Maybe a lawyer on here could chime in as to what is wrong with showing a video of kids playing at a school where there is no written rule against such? Perhaps provide a precedent?
After all, you may think it's unethical for someone with tattoos to teach children. You might think it's unethical for men and women to have to share the same restroom. That would be your opinion of what is ethical.
Without a law to back it up, your opinion is just that... an opinion.
When TV stations show children as a part of the news, they may choose to block out faces when the story is one that could be perceived as negative. They do this to cover their butts. They do the same with adults, too. But when a piece is not negative, there is nothing wrong with showing children playing in the park, in a group, or whatever. Permission from parents is obtained only when the child is highlighted individually in some way.
As far as I know, we have yet to see, in any country of the world, where someone was sued for making a personal blog-style video -- that was not negative in any way -- which included random people in the background (children or not). If you know of such a story, especially one in Korea, please feel free to post.
As for the Sookmyung... if they can't handle publicity showing their facilities, and opinions about their draconian rules for teachers, then they need to start writing legal clauses against video taping facilities as a part of the contract (or consider changing their policies to something they aren't worried will become public knowledge).
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I have posted videos for the purpose of information for prospective teachers. I didn't really intend them to become pieces of 'entertainment', although I guess it's inevitable that will happen somewhere along the line!!
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Did you post this video? If you did, then why put it up on YouTube, if you didn't want it in the public domain?
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Btw, I think that Sookmyung Women's University is a good university to work for. I think the video invariably points out the negative aspects, just because they are more quirkily noticeable. Just get your own accommodation. |
I didn't see anything overly critical in that video. Sure, the author poked fun at their "no people of the opposite sex allowed" in school housing rule, but that's about it from what I could see.
I found it informative/impressive that the classrooms were so small. I wish my school were that way. They shove 40 chairs in a room where I teach. The video didn't seem negative at all, in my opinion. Just very truthful. Maybe more truthful than some would want it to be. |
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laogaiguk
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
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| Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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| bassexpander wrote: |
The video didn't seem negative at all, in my opinion. Just very truthful. Maybe more truthful than some would want it to be. |
I don't agree. I think she may have actually tried to keep it neutral, but there was definitely negativity inside her voice and in what she showed. She didn't go over any really good points. If you watch and listen carefully, you can see (hear) it. Even in the Starbucks comment. Still, it is informative and I see nothing wrong with it at all. It seems 100% truthful in what it shows. I just don't agree it's unbiased or neutral. It's like watching a Micheal Moore film (in a sense), showing only good when needed and bad when needed. You don't need to actually express your opinion to express your opinion. |
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Atavistic
Joined: 22 May 2006
Location: How totally stupid that Korean doesn't show in this area.
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| Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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| I know who did that video. She wrote a book about studying taekwondo in Korea and has a fairly well known blog (in taekwondo circles). |
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bassexpander
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| Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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| It's not that negative, though. She was pretty soft as far as criticism can go. |
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Hotpants
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| Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 5:03 am Post subject: |
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And what legal boundaries were crossed here? What children were shown? And in what negative light?
On another note, what legal boundaries are you speaking of in reference to showing hagwons or children? Maybe a lawyer on here could chime in as to what is wrong with showing a video of kids playing at a school where there is no written rule against such? Perhaps provide a precedent?
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An example: In the UK, it is illegal to take a photo of a child and put it up on the internet without the parent's permission. It's even illegal for parents to take photos of their own children in a public swimming pool area. |
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Atavistic
Joined: 22 May 2006
Location: How totally stupid that Korean doesn't show in this area.
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| Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 5:08 am Post subject: |
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| Hotpants wrote: |
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And what legal boundaries were crossed here? What children were shown? And in what negative light?
On another note, what legal boundaries are you speaking of in reference to showing hagwons or children? Maybe a lawyer on here could chime in as to what is wrong with showing a video of kids playing at a school where there is no written rule against such? Perhaps provide a precedent?
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An example: In the UK, it is illegal to take a photo of a child and put it up on the internet without the parent's permission. It's even illegal for parents to take photos of their own children in a public swimming pool area. |
She didn't film it in the UK.
As for not being able to take photos of their own children in public areas, nice police state. |
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