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Kepler
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 Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 6:27 am Post subject: Man in Idaho, interpreting Bible literally, amputates hand |
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HAYDEN, Idaho (AP) -- A man who believed he bore the "mark of the beast" used a circular saw to amputate one of his hands, cooked it in a microwave and summoned authorities, Kootenai County sheriff's deputies say.
The man, in his mid-20s, was calm when deputies arrived at his home in this north Idaho town Saturday afternoon, and neither he nor the severed hand bore any noticeable tattoo or other mark, sheriff's Capt. Ben Wolfinger.
"It had been somewhat cooked by the time the deputy arrived," Wolfinger said.
The man, whose name was withheld, was in protective custody in the mental health unit of Kootenai Medical Center in Coeur d'Alene, where he and the hand were taken by ambulance. Hospital spokeswoman Lisa Johnson would not say whether an attempt was made to reattach the hand, citing patient confidentiality restrictions.
"He put a tourniquet on his arm before, so he didn't bleed to death," Wolfinger said. "That kind of mental illness is just sad."
The New Testament book of Revelation contains a passage in which an angel is quoted as saying, according to the New International Version of the Bible, "If anyone worships the beast and his image and receives his mark on the forehead or on the hand, he, too, will drink the wine of God's fury."
The book of Matthew also contains the passage, "And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to go into hell."
Wolfinger said he didn't know which hand was amputated. |
http://www.casperstartribune.net/articles/2008/01/11/news/regional/befe849e886a2ac5872573cb00698b20.txt |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 6:46 am Post subject: |
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On another site I frequent, one of the members got this tattoo.
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Atavistic
Joined: 22 May 2006
Location: How totally stupid that Korean doesn't show in this area.
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| Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 6:59 am Post subject: |
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| Where does the bible say "microwave?" |
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JMO
Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Daegu
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| Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Seems fair enough to me. More christians should do this. |
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mistermasan
Joined: 20 Sep 2007
Location: 10+ yrs on Dave's ESL cafe
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| Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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christians- sparkling!
another example of why religion is for idiots who are all too ready to forfeit their rational thinking skills and those who manipulate such. |
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laogaiguk
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea
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| Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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I still don't see how so many people still use the bible as a way of life. Considering that it has been interpreted in so many ways, and it is constantly changing, it's crazy. People of the same church don't even agree on everything with their clergy (or whatever), let alone the same denominations or religion. Peoples' views of how it is to be taken have changed countless times and yet people still think what they think now is the exact way it should be taken. And how in the heck do people decide that some stuff is to be taken literally, but other stuff should be interpreted in a different way, and worse some stuff should just be left out? If people still followed the first bible to a T, I might have respect for them, though I wouldn't follow it. But seriously, think about it.
I am not arguing against there being a God, I can't possibly know if there is or not. I have no problem with people living by morals they think are right and don't harm the greater good of society or individual rights or believing in a God. I think I might believe in something myself. But basing your entire life on a book written 2000 years ago that you don't even actually follow correctly, but twist to suit your needs is ignorant.
The OPs story is an extreme example, but a good one. |
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JMO
Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Daegu
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| Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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| I actually feel really sorry for this guy. Someone very close to me tried to commit suicide and was also inspired by the bible. Obviously he had a mental illness(schizophrenia apparently) and the bible was the outlet. Seems like this was a similar case. Mental illness is an issue that seems to be swept under the rug alot. I hope this guy gets better with the helpm of medication. |
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mistermasan
Joined: 20 Sep 2007
Location: 10+ yrs on Dave's ESL cafe
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| Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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| gets better? wha...? jesus gonna come over, uncook his hand and put it back on? the genie is outta that bottle. |
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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Someplace you'd rather be.
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| Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Greek symbols for 666, used by religious mystics nearly 2000 years ago, were uncovered in 1964. The discovery was largely ignored, because of the cryptic nature of the symbols. In 1964, they were also incorrectly read as MMM. In 1982, after further interpretation of the text, it was discovered that the letters were purposely written upside down, in reference to the evil the symbols represented: WWW |
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JMO
Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Daegu
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| Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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| gets better? wha...? jesus gonna come over, uncook his hand and put it back on? the genie is outta that bottle. |
lol..well i meant mentally. He probably won't get his hand back but his sanity would be good enough. |
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Justin Hale
Joined: 24 Nov 2007
Location: the Straight Talk Express
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| Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 6:49 pm Post subject: Re: Man in Idaho, interpreting Bible literally, amputates ha |
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Ask yourself if you really think it was true that there was (is) a celestial dictatorship that watched over you from the moment you were born (actually, from the moment you were conceived), all through life, night and day, knew your thoughts, waking and sleeping, could in fact convict you of thought crime � the absolute definition of a dictatorship (can convict you for what you think, for what you privately want), that monitors you like this, under permanent surveillance and control and supervision�..and, doesn�t even let go of you when you�re dead, because that�s when the real fun begins. My question is this: who wishes that that were true? Who wants to live the life of a serf in a celestial North Korea?
However, in North Korea, they don�t threaten to follow you after you�re dead, you can leave North Korea and get out of their hell by dying. Out of the Christian and Muslim one, you cannot. |
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