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Update: CBC-Liberal Collusion Uncovered
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enns



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 7:52 pm    Post subject: Update: CBC-Liberal Collusion Uncovered Reply with quote

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mindmetoo



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hell, the conservatives proved themselves no friends of the CBC.
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enns



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clearly. They've ruminated for years about cutting or removing its funding.

The point remains, however, that this is public broadcasting in a democratic society. You can't use taxpayer dollars to punish a political entity that has the right to criticize you. The CBC's purpose is to produce, as much as possible, unfettered news and not be the spokesman for any political party.


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sundubuman



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reminds me how Dan Rather and CBS tried to spring the fake memos regarding Bush's service during Vietnam just weeks before an election.
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Manner of Speaking



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 5:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Every time something has gotten "privatized" in Canada, the service has gone downhill. "Privatization" is the buzzword of MBA graduates who want services that were established and developed with public funds handed to them on a silver platter. Because they're too lazy to go out and start a business of their own.

Canada Post. Air Canada. The airports. If you really think private enterprise can deliver these services with better quality, then go out and start a business of your own. Prove it.
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enns



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What are you talking about? I said the CBC should be privatized, I never mentioned any other public enterprise.

Do you really think we need our tax dollars going toward a tv station in this day and age? The CBC served it's purpose in the first half of the 20th century but with the plethora of media options out there today we don't need hundreds of millions of tax dollars propping it up.

And yes, I think the private sector has proven itself able to run a tv network. Come on.
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Mosley



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 3:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember years ago when Preston Manning spoke at my local campus. I wasn't a student-I was, and am, a working stiff- but I went to hear him speak. All the usual suspects were there to suppress free speech, but as he took the podium the 1/3 or 1/4 or so of the crowd that supported him broke into thunderous applause, much to the chagrin of the chardonnay socialists in the audience.

How did the CBC report this? "Manning was greeted by a smattering of applause"- a blatent lie.

Before some twit breaks in and says that all media outfits are biased, let me say this: I can refuse to ever buy a copy of the GLOBE & MAIL or the TORONTO STAR but I can't "refuse" to pay taxes. And God knows how many of my tax dollars have gone to support the %&*#@ CBC.
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crusher_of_heads



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 5:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

enns wrote:
What are you talking about? I said the CBC should be privatized, I never mentioned any other public enterprise.

Do you really think we need our tax dollars going toward a tv station in this day and age? The CBC served it's purpose in the first half of the 20th century but with the plethora of media options out there today we don't need hundreds of millions of tax dollars propping it up.

And yes, I think the private sector has proven itself able to run a tv network. Come on.


It's the same tired rhetoric all left wing garbage trots out defending the CBC.

There's an allegedly educated retard who posted that if it were not for the CBC, FOX news would dominate the Canadain media scene-that's not stupid, Hite, that's braindead!

ps I am guessing you have no degree if you actually believe that trolling nonsense of yours; go back to Truro and collect welfare like your parents!
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twg



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 6:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

crusher_of_heads wrote:
It's the same tired rhetoric all left wing garbage trots out defending the CBC.

So, the best way you can tell if someone is right wing garbage is by their lack of defending the CBC?
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thepeel



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 7:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Every time something has gotten "privatized" in Canada, the service has gone downhill.


Quality of service isn't the main reason for privatization. Expansion of service and decreased costs are the dominant reasons. However, if you want to use quality as a justification, and airlines/ports as your evidence, then we have lived in different Canada's. CP and AC never, ever, ever had good service. They are cheaper to fly now and have the same grumpy attendants. However Westjet has amazing service, low fairs and is an excellent company to work for.
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"Privatization" is the buzzword of MBA graduates who want services that were established and developed with public funds handed to them on a silver platter.


MBA grads hardly study public policy. I think you mean economists. Maybe you don't know what is in an MBA curriculum?
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Because they're too lazy to go out and start a business of their own.


Well, I'd like some links to back that up. MBA's tend to graduate charged up and ready to work.
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Canada Post.


Federal Express. (America, so what)

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Air Canada.


Westjet.

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The airports.


Airports?

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If you really think private enterprise can deliver these services with better quality, then go out and start a business of your own. Prove it.


Do you know what a monopoly is? Do you know how difficult it is to compete with a government monopoly? Maybe you are just a little charged up?
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Czarjorge



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not Canadian, but if I was I wouldn't harp too much on tearing down the CBC. As a US citizen I envy the CBC, liberal collusion or not. I wish we had an NPR/PBS news only network.
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enns



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Czarjorge, the CBC has proven itself to be a spokespiece of the Canadian left-wing. What if the opposite were to happen in the US? How would you feel if Foxnews was to become the government funded news network of the United States? Once you're not a part of the populace that the CBC is fighting for(now a plurality of Canadians), then you realize the injustice that is occurring. Their job is the represent both sides of the debate.

How many times must they rerun a Michael Moore documentary in prime time anyway?
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thepeel



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

enns wrote:
Czarjorge, the CBC has proven itself to be a spokespiece of the Canadian left-wing.


The Liberal party isn't really "left". Anyways, it isn't that bad. I would like it to be more non-partisan. But, if the options are American style disinformation and garbage like CNN/FOX/MSNBC then I say keep the CBC. The United States is much worse off due to the junk that passes as news there. But it should only do news and current affairs. And hockey.

America should dramatically increase funding to PBS/NPR to create an American-style BBC. They need some real information down there.
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contrarian



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The CBC's facilities should be sold by public auction and its news, editorial and commentary staff sent packing. Finding jobs in the real world of reporting public policy instead of trying to make it.
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enns



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CPC keeps pressure up on CBC

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It is interesting that it was not the opposition that was the genesis of the attempt to link Mulroney to Harper, but allegedly it was the CBC.

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It is also troubling to know that the CBC itself is party to the political process on the Hill.


http://www.stephentaylor.ca/archives/000921.html

This is the third time the CBC has been caught blatantly trying to hurt the Conservatives.
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During the 2004 election, the network was caught soliciting anti-Conservative participants for a town hall-style meeting. And the network admitted "regret" in 2006 after airing a report that negatively portrayed Stephen Harper by using out-of-context footage.


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