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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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 Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 10:17 pm Post subject: Do you have a criminal record? |
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I once heard somewhere that one in seven Canadians have a criminal record. The majority of them are men, as are most EFL teachers here. Apart from the hassels, I wonder if actually having a criminal record will keep many potential teachers away.
So, everyone's eyes closed, hands up who has ever been convicted of anything? |
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yingwenlaoshi
Joined: 12 Feb 2007
Location: ... location, location!
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| Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 10:22 pm Post subject: |
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caniff
Joined: 03 Feb 2004
Location: All over the map
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| Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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Traffic violations (civil) = many (but after 5 years in Korea, I am now considered by my insurance company in the US as being a "safe driver").
Arrests = many.
Convictions = zero (helps when you have lawyers in the family who know the judges - but it was all just minor shit anyway).
(I'm on an F2, but I guess I'd be clear for the E-2 if I applied. What is the minimum threshold for failing the CBC?)
Edit: Since 'minor' is subjective, it was stuff like driving unregistered, smoking a doobie in a park, getting in fights, etc. during my younger days.
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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According to my RCMP paperwork I had never committed ... er been caught and convicted ... of a crime as of September 2004. But that and the fact that I've spent almost all of November 2004 until now in Korea would still not satisfy immigration. Had I been convicted of dangerous driving when I was 16 - as I probably should have been - would I now be unfit to teach anyone of any age in Korea? Good thing we told Constable Abble that I was swerving to avoid a cat and that's how the car plowed through 50 metres of brush after skidding off the road and doing a miracle roll, and that he couldn't be arsed to do an investigation to prove us otherwise. |
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yingwenlaoshi
Joined: 12 Feb 2007
Location: ... location, location!
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| Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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I've gotten tickets. Never been in a courtroom though.
One ticket for being drunk in public (although I could've gotten worse - long story), two speeding tickets, one ticket for not having my registration/license change 6 months after changing provinces, one ticket for going through a red light, one warning for speeding, and was once held in a drunk tank but got no ticket.
I don't think any of the above is a conviction. Although the one in bold I never paid. That was back in 1996 in Quebec. |
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Julius
Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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Is picking magic mushrooms a crime?
Maybe they are protected species. |
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xtchr
Joined: 23 Nov 2004
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| Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 12:01 am Post subject: |
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| Not yet. |
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trubadour
Joined: 03 Nov 2006
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| Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 12:58 am Post subject: |
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| i got a 'caution' back in 2002...anyone UKish know what the deal with that is? |
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Major Kong
Joined: 29 Oct 2007
Location: South Korea
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Other than the "criminally insane" my only other concern is
interior decorators that run over and stab soldiers to gather
their weapons. |
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Woden
Joined: 08 Mar 2007
Location: Eurasia
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| Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 1:13 am Post subject: |
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| trubadour wrote: |
| i got a 'caution' back in 2002...anyone UKish know what the deal with that is? |
Cautions WILL show up on a Subject Access Check, which is what you would need for a visa.
I have a Drunk'n'Disorderly Caution and it showed up, but I just had to confirm it wasn't of a sexual or violent nature. This was before the new E2 legislation.
Since the Soham murders all police cautions will stay on the police computer...FOREVER!! I was gutted when I found that out.
There is a way around it, however. Go to:
http://www.disclosurescotland.co.uk/basic.htm (it doesn't matter where you live in the UK)
and get a basic disclosure and it won't show up cautions which have been spent. Whether these would be accepted by immigration is another matter, but I reckon you would be fine. They probably don't know the difference between a Subject Access Check and a CRB Basic Disclosure. |
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Kimchieluver
Joined: 02 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 2:29 am Post subject: |
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| I ran an organized crime gang, ranging anywhere from human trafficking to selling bus transfers. Never had a charge stick. |
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nautilus
Joined: 26 Nov 2005
Location: Je jump, Tu jump, oui jump!
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| Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 2:31 am Post subject: |
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| Kimchieluver wrote: |
| I ran an organized crime gang, ranging anywhere from human trafficking to selling bus transfers. Never had a charge stick. |
Sssh, KBS is listening. |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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So, according to the above, up to 20% of teachers could be excluded by actually having a criminal record. Add this to the number of people who cannot or will not jump through all the hoops and 2008 could see a tremendous reduction in the number of FTs here.
I wonder if they've yet thought through what will exclude someone? Will it be limited only to those who committed crimes of a violent or sexual nature? Knowing Koreans, it will surely exclude anyone with drugs offences, which I'm sure a lot of FTs have. |
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venus
Joined: 25 Oct 2006
Location: Near Seoul
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| Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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| caniff wrote: |
Traffic violations (civil) = many (but after 5 years in Korea, I am now considered by my insurance company in the US as being a "safe driver").
Arrests = many.
Convictions = zero (helps when you have lawyers in the family who know the judges - but it was all just minor *beep* anyway).
(I'm on an F2, but I guess I'd be clear for the E-2 if I applied. What is the minimum threshold for failing the CBC?)
Edit: Since 'minor' is subjective, it was stuff like driving unregistered, smoking a doobie in a park, getting in fights, etc. during my younger days. |
Don't forget that incident with the eel, the Vicar and the tub of margerine.
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venus
Joined: 25 Oct 2006
Location: Near Seoul
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| Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Woden wrote: |
| trubadour wrote: |
| i got a 'caution' back in 2002...anyone UKish know what the deal with that is? |
Cautions WILL show up on a Subject Access Check, which is what you would need for a visa.
I have a Drunk'n'Disorderly Caution and it showed up, but I just had to confirm it wasn't of a sexual or violent nature. This was before the new E2 legislation.
Since the Soham murders all police cautions will stay on the police computer...FOREVER!! I was gutted when I found that out.
There is a way around it, however. Go to:
http://www.disclosurescotland.co.uk/basic.htm (it doesn't matter where you live in the UK)
and get a basic disclosure and it won't show up cautions which have been spent. Whether these would be accepted by immigration is another matter, but I reckon you would be fine. They probably don't know the difference between a Subject Access Check and a CRB Basic Disclosure. |
A CRB Basic disclosure is fine. |
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