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US Housing Market - Your 2 cents please
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CeleryMan



Joined: 12 Apr 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 3:20 am    Post subject: US Housing Market - Your 2 cents please Reply with quote

Thought I'd do the right thing and refinance my current ARM into a 30 year fixed @ 5.65%.

Total out of pocket funds $5000 ($3225 came from paying 1.25 pts).

With the continual billion dollar sub-prime write-offs I now wonder if I should of held out until the Jan/Feb 08 timeframe to get a better rate?

Speak on it por favor ...
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pesawattahi



Joined: 30 Sep 2007
Location: it rubs the lotion on it's skin or else it gets the hose again

PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 3:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is a good rate get while the getting is good. I refused to get an ARM when it was offered to me since I recognized it as the scam it is. Also try to get the bi-monthly payment system. Due to the way interest is compounded you will actually pay less, I switched after a year and my payments stayed the same but instead of 30yrs it dropped down to 25yrs.
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stillnotking



Joined: 18 Dec 2007
Location: Oregon, USA

PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are rumors that MBIA might get downgraded in the near future.

You know what it would mean to have a sub-AAA company guaranteeing all kinds of AAA bonds?

The sky might actually be falling here, folks. I personally would not invest in any aspect of the American stock, bond, or real estate markets right now. Expect the value of any holdings you currently have to drop in 2008.
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CeleryMan



Joined: 12 Apr 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would you mind elaborating? If the sky were to fall in 2008 wouldn't that benefit potential home buyers?
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sojourner1



Joined: 17 Apr 2007
Location: Where meggi swim and 2 wheeled tractors go sput put chug alugg pug pug

PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A big commingled mess due to the debt load being too high for many peoples' incomes. This makes a large chunk of debt in the market to be unservicable which will result in economic downturn. It already resulted in huge jobs losses in finance, accounting, and many other business roles. This is not the time to come into the job market with a business degree.

The job market has to provide good jobs to allow people to have the means of servicing debt. Companies aren't willing to pay well due to comparing wages to that of India, while they outsource everything from accounting to manufacturing.

You can't buy a house on a $10/hour job like many people are trying to do.
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stillnotking



Joined: 18 Dec 2007
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CeleryMan wrote:
Would you mind elaborating? If the sky were to fall in 2008 wouldn't that benefit potential home buyers?


Well, kinda. If they still had jobs.
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lastat06513



Joined: 18 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The US housing bubble is about to explode.
I would say this is one of the worst times to apply for a housing loan or refinance a morgage.

Thousands of homes are going on the market because many homeowners simply can't make the payments because they are becoming too much for them.

As for me, if I ever thought about buying a home, thank god for the VA loan program....hehehe Wink
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CeleryMan



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Again, I've been out of the loop with what's happening in the US housing market but it seems like some regions are being harder hit than others?

I'm extremely interested in finding a condo/loft in the South. Atlanta and S. Florida (Miami) markets have really caught my attention. I'd love to scoop up a pre-forclosure property from a hungry agent who is offering $30k + in incentives.

Does anyone have firsthand experience in Miami, ATL?
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matthews_world



Joined: 15 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

People need houses to live in. Rents are going up due to the demand of recent defaulters.

In one is working abroad and looking for an investment, real estate would be where it's at. Let someone else pay your mortgage while you're here living the high-life.
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Tiger Beer



Joined: 07 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 7:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm thinking it will get even better a year or two from now. I mean, lower prices with an even strong buyer's market.
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CeleryMan



Joined: 12 Apr 2007
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In hindsight, I pulled the trigger way to early. While 5.65% is good, I could have saved $$$ had I waited till Jan or Feb 2008.

I don't think US mortgage fixed rates 15,30 have bottomed out. I see rates dipping as low as 5.125% .....
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cbclark4



Joined: 20 Aug 2006
Location: Masan

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The bursting bubble has been bursting for about 3 years.

Expect some drop in housing starts, HUD auction are up and will continue.

I don't think we will see a repeat of 1995.

However if we do, I will be buying low and selling high.

Ride the wave baby!
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atomic42



Joined: 06 Jul 2007
Location: Gimhae

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The bottom is falling out of the St. Louis loft market. New construction is being reduced as much as 100k. Check it:
http://stlouis.craigslist.org/rfs/535729972.html
http://stlouis.craigslist.org/rfs/535705424.html
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cbclark4



Joined: 20 Aug 2006
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

atomic42 wrote:
The bottom is falling out of the St. Louis loft market. New construction is being reduced as much as 100k. Check it:
http://stlouis.craigslist.org/rfs/535729972.html
http://stlouis.craigslist.org/rfs/535705424.html


What was the assessed value of that home 5 years ago.

Flats will depreciate faster than any other type of property.

Most property will self correct to 2000-2002 values aithin the next year.

Don't expect them to deflate quickly beyond that.

I wouldn't by a flat in this market or any market for that matter.

Flats are sometimes referrred to as "Garden Style Condo" a flat by any other name is an apartment you own rather than rent.
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atomic42



Joined: 06 Jul 2007
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They didn't exist, they were only rarely used warehouse space.
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