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Tony Blair finally converts to Roman Catholicism
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philipjames



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 3:23 pm    Post subject: Tony Blair finally converts to Roman Catholicism Reply with quote

In this day and age it is remarkable that people still take religion seriously. Reading of his conversion is like being told that, after years of indecision, he has finally concluded that superman can indeed fly faster than rudolph. People who belief in invisible sky gods should not be allowed to hold high office.

Both Protestantism and Roman Catholicism have one thing in common. Like every other religion, they are man made. The sooner humankind leaves the god-man tradition behind the better for our species.
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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should not be allowed to hold high office.


Given that he waited until he was out of office, is there any indication that he would not have been allowed to be PM if he had formally converted earlier?
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eamo



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The UK has no ban on Catholics being Prime Minister.

Unlike the ban for a Catholic being King or Queen. In this day and age though........if the Windsor family did decide that all this royalty m'larkey wasn't worth it anymore......Maybe a Catholic royal family would be accepted. It would be a right old bruhaha, though.

Blair seems to have a faith................ Fair enough. Religion makes no sense to me, yet many intelligent people seem to go for it. Mel Gibson, George Bush, Tom Cruise, Korean missionaries.......
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catman



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ironically the Vatican was opposed to the invasion of Iraq.
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RACETRAITOR



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I won't say religious people should not be allowed to run in elections, but it should be held against them. In Canada we had a very promising right-wing candidate get his whole platform for PM shot down when it came out he was a Creationist. Nobody could take him seriously after that. But the whole invisible sky god thing isn't that big of a deal, as long as policies are not made by the politician that depend on the intervention of said deity.
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Fishead soup



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RACETRAITOR wrote:
I won't say religious people should not be allowed to run in elections, but it should be held against them. In Canada we had a very promising right-wing candidate get his whole platform for PM shot down when it came out he was a Creationist. Nobody could take him seriously after that. But the whole invisible sky god thing isn't that big of a deal, as long as policies are not made by the politician that depend on the intervention of said deity.


Would you vote for someone who believes in Santa Clause?

Isn't he a relative of Dominant Clause.
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catman



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RACETRAITOR wrote:
I won't say religious people should not be allowed to run in elections, but it should be held against them. In Canada we had a very promising right-wing candidate get his whole platform for PM shot down when it came out he was a Creationist. Nobody could take him seriously after that. But the whole invisible sky god thing isn't that big of a deal, as long as policies are not made by the politician that depend on the intervention of said deity.


Ah Stockwell Day. He felt that dinosaurs and human beings once co-existed and that the world was only 6,000 years old. Couldn't trust him after hearing that.
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Bingo



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As a former Christian myself, I find it interesting how few Xians there are in Canada compared to the US. People who say (wrongly) that there are few cultural differences between the two countries need to consider this fact. I haven't figured out the reason for this discrepancy, but it is a mark of pride (or ought to be) that politicians ' professing belief in sky gods are seriously frowned upon in Canada.

I remember when Canada had a memorial for the 9/11 victims in 2001, the prime minister stated clearly that the word 'god' should not be mentioned in the memorial service.

Religion is just scary. Religious conservatives believe that the world is coming to an end - and this is a good thing. It will hasten the return of a non-existent Greco-Hebrew deity. And fukk the environment too. After all, the world's coming to an end.

What a bunch of stupid mammals we humans are.


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Fishead soup



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

catman wrote:
RACETRAITOR wrote:
I won't say religious people should not be allowed to run in elections, but it should be held against them. In Canada we had a very promising right-wing candidate get his whole platform for PM shot down when it came out he was a Creationist. Nobody could take him seriously after that. But the whole invisible sky god thing isn't that big of a deal, as long as policies are not made by the politician that depend on the intervention of said deity.


Ah Stockwell Day. He felt that dinosaurs and human beings once co-existed and that the world was only 6,000 years old. Couldn't trust him after hearing that.


He was right didn't you the Rachel Welsh movie with the giant Iguana's
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RACETRAITOR



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

catman wrote:
RACETRAITOR wrote:
I won't say religious people should not be allowed to run in elections, but it should be held against them. In Canada we had a very promising right-wing candidate get his whole platform for PM shot down when it came out he was a Creationist. Nobody could take him seriously after that. But the whole invisible sky god thing isn't that big of a deal, as long as policies are not made by the politician that depend on the intervention of said deity.


Ah Stockwell Day. He felt that dinosaurs and human beings once co-existed and that the world was only 6,000 years old. Couldn't trust him after hearing that.


Some guy came campaigning to my mom's home for the Canadian Reform Alliance Party (or whatever they were calling themselves at that time), and she had to take the dog into the next room because he wouldn't stop barking. She told the guy "Sorry, my dinosaur is barking."

And as for Santa Claus, I don't see why he would be any less credible than Jesus or Odin or minotaurs.
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cbclark4



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't want the facts to get in the way:


Canadians practice a wide variety of religions. According to 2001 census,
[67] 77.1% of Canadians identified as being Christians; of this,
Catholics make up the largest group (43.6% of Canadians). The largest
Protestant denomination is the United Church of Canada; about 16.5% of
Canadians declare no religious affiliation, and the remaining 6.3% were
affiliated with religions other than Christianity, of which the largest is
Islam numbering 1.9%, followed by Judaism: 1.1%.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada

Bingo 77% Xians in Canada. In the US 76% actually one percent less.


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RACETRAITOR



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cbclark4 wrote:
I don't want the facts to get in the way:


Canadians practice a wide variety of religions. According to 2001 census,
[67] 77.1% of Canadians identified as being Christians; of this,
Catholics make up the largest group (43.6% of Canadians). The largest
Protestant denomination is the United Church of Canada; about 16.5% of
Canadians declare no religious affiliation, and the remaining 6.3% were
affiliated with religions other than Christianity, of which the largest is
Islam numbering 1.9%, followed by Judaism: 1.1%.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada

Bingo 77% Xians in Canda. In the US 76% actually one persent less.


But how Christian are they? Do they go to church every week? Do they believe in God? Do they have any respect whatsoever for the Bible? I bet a large amount of that 76% would answer "no" to all three.
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cbclark4



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm just stating the facts where someone has made an assumption.

Huge percentage of Catholics to boot.
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blurgalurgalurga



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RACETRAITOR wrote:
catman wrote:
RACETRAITOR wrote:
I won't say religious people should not be allowed to run in elections, but it should be held against them. In Canada we had a very promising right-wing candidate get his whole platform for PM shot down when it came out he was a Creationist. Nobody could take him seriously after that. But the whole invisible sky god thing isn't that big of a deal, as long as policies are not made by the politician that depend on the intervention of said deity.


Ah Stockwell Day. He felt that dinosaurs and human beings once co-existed and that the world was only 6,000 years old. Couldn't trust him after hearing that.


Some guy came campaigning to my mom's home for the Canadian Reform Alliance Party (or whatever they were calling themselves at that time), and she had to take the dog into the next room because he wouldn't stop barking. She told the guy "Sorry, my dinosaur is barking."

And as for Santa Claus, I don't see why he would be any less credible than Jesus or Odin or minotaurs.


I know some of that dude's extended family and they are mad as cut snakes. The one breastfed her kid until it was FIVE. Ewwww!
Hey, isn't he Minister or something or other now?
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catman



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The United States remains among the most religious nations in the world, according to a worldwide study by the University.

About 46 percent of American adults attend church at least once a week, not counting weddings, funerals and christenings, compared with 14 percent of adults in Great Britain, 8 percent in France, 7 percent in Sweden and 4 percent in Japan.

Moreover, 58 percent of Americans say they often think about the meaning and purpose of life, compared with 25 percent of British, 26 percent of Japanese and 31 percent of West Germans, the study says.

"While traditional religious belief and participation in organized religion have steadily declined in most advanced industrial nations, especially in Western Europe, this is not the case in the United States," says Ronald Inglehart, a researcher at the Institute for Social Research (ISR) and director of the ISR World Values Surveys, which were conducted in more than 80 nations between 1981 and 2001.


Less than 20% if Canadians regularly attend church.
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