Korean Job Discussion Forums

[mervsdamun]

Well, I have spent couple month in New Zealand, and it�s fair to say, it has gotten more racist in the last few years (I was an exchange student there couple years ago).

It sucks being Asian in NZ. They get more protection from the police and the media does (occasionally) report on the injustices (such as the clip below) � which we certainly do not get in Korea.

However, when it comes to day-to-day stuff and interacting with locals I�d rather be a white dude in Korea than a Korean in NZ.

http://tvnz.co.nz/view/video_popup_windows_skin/1265700

[wylies99]

One month and you're an 'expert." Uh, not exactly.

[mervsdamun]

[Ilsanman]

This could become a chicken vs egg story.

[Rapacious Mr. Batstove]

[Yaya]

[Rapacious Mr. Batstove]

No, not at all.

[Rapacious Mr. Batstove]

No, not at all, and yaya, you're a dick for implying that.

[Ilsanman]

Some people set dangerous precedents. They expect others to integrate into their culture when in their home country, but don't realize that they have set the precedence to integrate into another culture if they should ever travel or emigrate.

[nicholas_chiasson]

You know I'd rather be a black dude in Alabama then a white dude in Zimbabwe. These x-is-more-racist-than-y arguments are just pointless. Honestly, I agree with the posters who find it interesting or even enlightening to be on the receiving end of racism. Us white guys don't get that a whole lot. But to argue the NZ is more racist than Korea...what is this a survey? I'll flat out say is America racist? Yes. Parts of the US drag black people behind their trucks. Ok it happens every couple of years...but still.
-These asians keep wanting to be like "I didn't get my free cup of coffee at the 7-11 in Bumble Mississippi" as if it justifies getting cat called for being seen in public with a korean girl. Just last night I was at a bar with a girl. I got up to go to the bathroom, and when I came back some Korean was in my booth talking to her. HE FLED before I could even complain.
-I think if you're white Koreans are simply xenophobic not racist. If you're black then they are racist. If you're Asian, stop thinking a continent is a nationality or an ethnicity. Tell a serb and a bosnian...oh you Europeans are so cute.

[dalpengi]

You know, what amazed me recently is discovering that even Brits and Americans are having trouble integrating into NZ.

Why you may ask? It appears that NZ is aggressively promoted overseas and is being sold to professionals from the OECD countries who have money who are looking for a change as the idyllic destination. You know, the 100% Pure NZ etc.

However, when they get to NZ they are told that their qualifications are not worth jack in NZ, the they need to retrain (if they are lucky) and that there are no jobs in their area of specialisation. They get picked on by the locals for being �dumb yanks�, �whinging poms� etc. that after having spent a fortune relocating.

Anyway, it�s not my story so I�ll just point you to what is indeed NZ�s very own version of Dave�s ESL Caf�:
http://www.expatexposed.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=19

Interesting quote from that page:
�Expatriation is also big business. Nowhere is this more true than in New Zealand. In 2006, migrants paid a net total of NZ$3.3 billion (US$2.5 billion/�1.77 billion) in taxes into the New Zealand economy, an astounding figure considering the "real" New Zealanders contributed a net of $2.84 billion, despite being 3/4 of the total population. The New Zealand government has aggressively marketed the country as a relocation destination to skilled workers, and the campaign has successfully created an image of New Zealand as a progressive, green and technologically innovative nation.

The image is frankly debatable.

Many of us would go so far as to say that the image is false, the ad campaign a blatant propaganda, and what it does to many people a crying shame.

Expat Exposed was created by several frustrated migrants to New Zealand as a refuge, and as a resource. It is a one-stop resource for all prospective migrants to NZ who want to know the downsides of life in this country. It is also a refuge for migrants who are already here and struggling, and feeling very much alone.�

[Justin Hale]

23% of the population of New Zealand were born overseas (one of the highest rates in the world). Yes, much of those people are Brits and Irish, but also substantial numbers of East Asians (mostly Chinese, but also Koreans, Taiwanese, Japanese). The New Zealand government seeks to increase the overall population by 1% per year drawing immigrants from many nations.

It's one thing to offer personal testimonies and experience and I too agree NZ has a problem with racism and it is totally overlooked how segregated it is between Europeans and Maori. The Maori are largely poor underclass similar to blacks in previous eras in the US. I certainly agree that it's better to white in Asia than Asian in the West. But nevertheless, there's a bigger picture. New Zealand seeks to share its country with immigrants. The foreign population in Korea is 2% of the population and most immigrants are not eligible for citizenship or even permanent residency, unless they are married to a Korean or have invested more than $5 million in the local economy.

[The Perfect Cup of Coffee]

Does NZ even have the economy to absorb that much immigration? I guess the federal government figures once you're there, you won't leave after having invested so much in re-location. Kind of sucks though re-locating and bringing your life savings only to be told to re-train for a job you probably won't get anyways.

[dalpengi]

[dalpengi]