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[Gopher]

[stevemcgarrett]

Glad to hear it.

Makes me almost as gleeful as when China banned gutter rapsters like Snoop Dog recently.

Scientology is nothing more than a glamor cult attracting a disproportionate number of dimwit entertainers like Cruise and Travolta.

But what they should really ban the film for is the inability of the lead actor to, well, act.

[crusher_of_heads]

[YoshaMazov]

While I hold no affection for Scientology, preventing Cruise to act simply because of his faith seems to be rather regressive. So what if it's a crackpot "religion?" Should Cruise not enjoy the same rights afforded to followers of more traditional religions? Scientology isn't exactly forcing it's members to drink Kool-Aid.
And yes, I realize this is in Germany, and thus individuals are subject to different laws. But this screams religious intolerance.

[Gopher]

But who says the German govt aims "to prevent Cruise from acting?"

[YoshaMazov]

Of course they shouldn't let anyone and everyone in their camps to film a movie. Certainly the government is justified in not letting movies be filmed on military bases. It's the reason that bugs me; they appear to be doing this because of Cruise's religion. Had he been a Christian would this have happened?

[thepeel]

Shall I ask the obvious question?

[stevemcgarrett]

Yosha implored:

[YoshaMazov]

Simply assuming everyone on the Left is agnostic or atheist is quite a ridiculous assumption. If you've ever read any polls on religion, which I assume you have, you'd notice that a sizable majority of Democrats subscribe to one of the major religions. They just don't feel the need to wear it on their shoulder.
Of course Christianity doesn't murder its members, neither does Scientology. While L. Ron Hubbard certainly was a bit wacky, he is a far cry from Jim Jones.
I would have the same reaction if Cruise was denied based on his beliefs regardless of his mantra...it doesn't matter to me if he's Christian, Mormon, Jew, Pentecostal or a Scientologist. My concern for cultural differences is hardly at play here; simply disagreeing with the German government's decision doesn't make me culturally insensitive. Quite the opposite; I'd say worrying about the treatment of an individual who subscribes to a wildly different ideology than I would qualify as culturally sensitive. I dare say you, in refusing privileges based on religious preference, are the insensitive one.

[Gopher]

Again, the German govt is not suppressing anything or anyone. The German govt merely denied Cruise and his associates permission to film on an actual military facility.

Such indulgences are privileges and not to be taken for granted.

Let Cruise build a set in L.A. and learn to keep his religious beliefs and opinions and claims that psychiatry is a lie and his dramatic fights with Brook Shields to himself.

[YoshaMazov]

Of course filming on a military base is a privilege. I haven't alluded to them as rights.
And, had the German government simply said nobody can film here, or produced a legitimate reason to deny the film, I wouldn't care. However:
"The reason? Because Cruise, as the Defense Ministry puts it, 'has publically professed to being a member of the Scientology cult.'" is what bugs me. Don't want people filming on your base? Fine. Don't want a movie about Hitler made in your country? Fine. Have a scheduling conflict? Fine.
Just don't deny Cruise when the government would allow any non-Scientologist filming privileges.

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1637564,00.html?cnn=yes

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