Site Search:
 
Speak Korean Now!
Teach English Abroad and Get Paid to see the World!
Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index Korean Job Discussion Forums
"The Internet's Meeting Place for ESL/EFL Teachers from Around the World!"
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

Unions look as if they are out

 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> Job-related Discussion Forum
View previous topic :: View next topic  

Once again, is it useful to have a union for native teachers?
Yes, unions are the only thing that will ensure respect and equity
66%
 66%  [ 6 ]
No, EFL teaching by native speakers is not a profession that lends itself to unionization
33%
 33%  [ 3 ]
Total Votes : 9

Author Message
Pusanpoe



Joined: 27 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2003 12:26 am    Post subject: Unions look as if they are out Reply with quote

Unions in Korea are already so looked down upon just check the polls newspapers etc. With the high unemployment here, do you think there will be much support by authorities for this, especially for foreigners who are hardly the down trodden lot of cheap factory workers with little education and future. And more importantly, the average period of working in Korea is about one year for native speaker EFL ers. So the group that stays is a very small one that will not form a sufficient base or commitment. Most of the Korean employers expect regular native speakers for the most part to go back home and integrate into the main workforce there and seek their just rewards and upward mobility. That turnover which a fair number of employers encourage puts a damper on a labour knowledge base being built up. In the meantime Use eFL law and other tools instead.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Bulsajo



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2003 1:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Unions look as if they are out

I didn't know they ever looked like they were in.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
bjonothan



Joined: 29 Apr 2003
Location: All over the place

PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2003 5:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Someone put in a message before that there were no unions for teachers in Korea. I was talking with a Korean teacher from my school and found out that it was not the case. When I mentioned the idea of a foreigner version she just laughed. It would be good if something could be set up but I don't think it would be possible in Korea. Here is a country where until a year ago sticking fingers in your teacher's ass was a normality. Hawking in front of the public is normal, among other things which are too numerous to mention I don't think that Korea is ready for something like this. I would love to see better conditions, but as long as I live in Korea I think I have to accept that things will change slowly and not to my liking. The bottom line: If I don't like it and it pisses me off I will go home......
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Yahoo Messenger
TECO



Joined: 20 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2003 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Our peers in Japan seem to be way ahead of us in this department.

Think about it people, they have less headaches with employers than Korean instructors beacasuse they do have the right to organize.

For instance, check this out: http://berlitz.generalunion.org/
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
crito03



Joined: 30 Jun 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 3:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A union is not an ideal option for English teachers, however an association would be a better route, serving more interest. Bargaining rights and the like would not be best done collectively but if english teachers agree to stand in solidarity over certain issues then standards would improve and we would have more control over our contracts .

I am definetly willing to take the time to set one up if there is interest. I guess what I am saying is if people are interested then please pm me and let me know. Sadly it would only be as powerful as the amount of members it represents so really it s all about if people are interested.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> Job-related Discussion Forum All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


This page is maintained by the one and only Dave Sperling.
Contact Dave's ESL Cafe
Copyright © 2018 Dave Sperling. All Rights Reserved.

Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2002 phpBB Group

TEFL International Supports Dave's ESL Cafe
TEFL Courses, TESOL Course, English Teaching Jobs - TEFL International