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thepeel
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 Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 6:06 pm Post subject: Canada expected to back out of UN racism conference |
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UNITED NATIONS -- Canada is poised to become the first country to significantly distance itself from a major anti-racism conference the United Nations is planning for next year.
Maxime Bernier, the Foreign Minister, is expected to announce as early as Wednesday Canada is dropping out of planning for the Durban II Conference, which the UN is billing as a global follow-up to its 2001 World Conference Against Racism in Durban, South Africa.
Insiders say the government feels the new conference is shaping up to be like the anti-West and anti-Israel free-for-all that critics said the initial gathering quickly turned into.
But the move is bound to spark accusations Ottawa is not serious about combatting racism around the world.
The Conservative government is expected to counter any criticism by stating Canada remains committed to anti-racism principles. But it will also argue planning for Durban II veers from those principles, making Canada's participation impossible.
"At the moment, much of the planning for the conference suggests it will focus little on denouncing racism wherever it occurs, and a lot on advancing some countries' agendas against Israel and the West," said one insider familiar with the new policy.
"The government feels that taking a stand against the gathering will do more in the long run for combatting racism than joining in."
Arab- and Muslim-led verbal attacks on Israel at the 2001 conference were so dominant the United States and Israel walked out in protest.
Canada, then under a Liberal administration, stayed, but its senior delegate told the assembly it did so "only ... to ... decry the attempts ... to de-legitimize the State of Israel and to dishonour the history and suffering of the Jewish people."
The 2001 conference also saw Nigeria and Zimbabwe lead African countries in a demand Western powers apologize for the trans-Atlantic slave trade, and pay huge reparations
The UN routinely launches "review" conferences of big meetings, and member states decided late in 2006 there should be a follow-up to Durban I. But hopes in the West this one might be different were soon dashed.
The UN gave planning oversight to its Human Rights Council, which since its launch less than two years ago has targeted Israel in 14 of its 15 resolutions charging human rights violations.
States sitting on the Council then placed Iran, which has called for Israel's destruction, on an executive planning committee. Libya is the chair.
Beyond Israel, some Arab and Muslim countries additionally seek the 2009 agenda to focus on what they call Islamophobia. While that could mean a legitimate study of discrimination against Muslims, UN skeptics say it is actually code to characterize Western anti-terrorism efforts as a plot to subjugate Islam.
"Make no mistake, Durban II is on track to be even worse than Durban I," said Anne Bayefsky, a Canadian academic who edits the New York-based monitoring Web site EyeontheUN.org.
"Canada, if it drops out, would be exhibiting moral clarity and courage after making the mistake at Durban I of staying despite serious reservations."
Canada was among 41 countries that last month opposed allocating US$6.8-million in UN funding to help pay for preparatory meetings for Durban II. The measure carried in the 192-member General Assembly.
"No one can stop Durban II because countries that are classified as less than democratic hold a majority in the General Assembly, and they are for it," said Ms. Bayefsky.
"But Canada's move would not only be consistent with its opposition at the General Assembly, but also encourage other democratic countries to follow suit, and send a strong signal de-legitimizing the final gathering." |
This will be a muslim and leftist hate-fest, like the last one.
Here is the article that Mark Steyn wrote about the last one. It is one of my favorite pieces of all time.
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In the first week of September 2001, the kindly earth, lapt in universal law, was gathered in South Africa, yakking incessantly, shrieking hysterically, but slumbering nonetheless. In a novel or a movie, it would have seemed too pat, the juxtaposition too obvious. But real life is not so squeamish as the professional scenarist, and so the weekend of September 8, 2001 found the representatives of the civilized world locked in intense negotiations with the planet�s preeminent thugs over what recompense the West should make for its evil legacy.
Underneath the surface controversy, the United Nations Conference Against Racism, Racial Intolerance, Xenophobia and/ or Related Intolerance in Durban had an impressive unanimity on the key points. Everyone agreed that the West was guilty as charged, disagreement being confined only to the appropriate remedy. Dismissing apologies for colonialism and slavery as a pathetic attempt to cop a plea, Robert Mugabe�s government�taking time out of its hectic schedule of terrorizing white farmers�called on Britain and America to �apologize unreservedly for their crimes against humanity.� There was a big split on the slavery-reparations front between the African-American bloviators, who wanted whitey�s payments to go to individuals, and the African presidents, who thought it would be more convenient if the West just dropped off one big check at the presidential palace. The Organization for African Unity demanded that reparations for the Hutu slaughter of the Tutsis should be paid�by the Americans.
But the jingling of the guinea helps the hurt
that Honour feels,
And the nations do but murmur.
Instead of slapping their knees and weeping with laughter and wondering how the after-conference cabaret was ever going to top this, the Europeans and North Americans were at pains to agree with their chastisers. The British, French, Dutch, Italians, Spanish, Germans, and Portuguese were happy to concede European colonialism was wrong, but unhappy at having their case formally presented by the Belgians as current holders of the EU�s rotating presidency. Having been remarkably inept and corrupt imperialists, the Belgians understandably find consolation in the leftist theory that the murkier bits of their history owe more to the general, inherent iniquities of colonialism rather than to their specific failure to be any good at it. Prostrate as they were, their European colleagues had enough residual rump professional imperialist pride to resent Brussels�s willingness to overegg the self-abasement pudding.
Otherwise, the West�s current leaders�Britain�s Tony Blair, France�s Lionel Jospin, Canada�s Jean Chr�tien, et al.�side with their tormentors on the sins of their fathers, but feel that, as impeccable multiculturalists, they themselves should be cut some slack. Mr. Chr�tien was all for the conference shining a useful spotlight on the most wicked racist sexist societies on earth but was a bit taken back to find that the first country caught in the beam was his own. Matthew Coon Come, chief of Canada�s �First Nations,� told UN delegates that he and his fellow natives were victims of a �racist and colonial syndrome of dispossession and discrimination� and only last year had been savagely attacked by �white mobs� acting on the behest of the government in Ottawa. The crowd applauded wildly. Needless to say, the Canadian government had paid for Mr. Coon Come to fly to Durban to explain how oppressive it is. In Britain, your average Tory backbencher likes to spend his lunch hours hanging upside down in a bondage dungeon being flayed by Miss Whiplash for fifteen quid plus a small tip. Enlightened opinion has, as in so many other areas, �Federalized� this important adjunct to government. Mr. Coon Come provides essentially the same service as Miss Whiplash, though at rather greater cost. The United States, though it�s spent years being damned by biens-pensants for refusing to pay its UN dues, was happy to pony up 25 percent of the tab for Durban.
And it was cheap at the price. As the conference bogged down in the precise degree and number of anti-Israeli slurs the final communiqu� could accommodate (�Okay, you can have two �racist Zionist murderers� but take out the �Jew bloodsuckers��), the chancelleries of the West devoted most of their attention to calibrating the status of their emissaries, like a dowager duchess obsessing over placement at dinner. Though many nations were represented at the highest level��Today the Presidents of Nigeria, Latvia, Togo, and Cuba, among others, addressed delegates on the topics of racism, slavery, and reparations,� reported The New York Times without giggling�some European nations downgraded their delegations to �mid-level.� Canada toyed with downgrading from �mid-level� to �low-level,� but eventually decided against it: the low-level diplomat is the gunboat of modern international relations and not to be deployed lightly.
The United States, for its part, downgraded from low-level to complete withdrawal, much to the regret of other delegates such as the Reverend Jesse Jackson, President-for-Life of the People�s Republic of Himself. According to Jesse and Co., only by remaining at the table can we �influence the debate.� Take the Syrian Foreign Minister, whose position is that the Holocaust is �a Jewish lie.� Okay, we can probably never get him to accept that six million Jews were murdered but, if we�d joined the Norwegian delegation in all-night negotiations, we might have been able to persuade Damascus to accept a compromise position acknowledging that, oh, eight or nine hundred may have died, mostly troublemakers who were asking for it. This would represent what the Rev. Jackson, the UN bigwigs, and Norway call �progress.� |
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Fortunately, it wasn�t all negative. The delegates came up with a delicious new term for advanced capitalism��techno-racism��and there was a rapturous ovation for Fidel Castro, who was introduced as the leader of �the most democratic country in the world.� Late on the Saturday, the UN�s Mary Robinson declared the Conference a grand success and everyone went home. A little over forty-eight hours later, three hijacked airliners were flown into the Pentagon and the World Trade Center. |
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If Lady Kennedy is saying that we�re too tolerant of our own tolerance, she might be on to something: there is something a little preposterous about a world in which the Western politician�s first reaction to the slaughter of thousands by Islamic fundamentalists is to buzz his secretary and demand she find him a mosque to visit so he can demonstrate his respect for Islam. But in fact Lady Kennedy seems to be saying that our tolerance of our own claims to tolerance is making us intolerant of other people�s intolerance: when we moan about Islamic fundamentalism, we forget how offensive our own fundamentalisms�votes, human rights, drivers� licenses for women� must be to others. The baroness says we�re too tolerant of ourselves, and she�ll tolerate anything but that.
The British Council was founded to promote British culture around the world, but that was then and this is now. Today, explained Lady Kennedy, it�s all about �mutuality�an exchange without anybody saying which set of values is more important.� In the multicultural West, our values are that we have no values: we accord all values equal value�the wittering English feminist concerned that her tolerance is implicitly intolerant or the Sudanese wife-beater and compulsory clitorectomy scheduler. That�s why Lady Kennedy likes �globalization.� It gives her �warm feelings that are about sharing,� she said. �I feel often when I meet with women, you know, from other parts of the world a shared sense of, somehow an experience of � of � womanhood.� |
Lots more here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/646936/posts |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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Gentlemen! Mount your soapboxes...!
Such conferences never produce any new insight, offer any constructive criticism of anything, or generally accomplish anything useful at all. They alienate moderates. |
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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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| Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Gopher wrote: |
Gentlemen! Mount your soapboxes...!
Such conferences never produce any new insight, offer any constructive criticism of anything, or generally accomplish anything useful at all. They alienate moderates. |
You're likely quite right. |
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huffdaddy
Joined: 25 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:33 am Post subject: |
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The Current Events forum never produces any new insight, offers any constructive criticism of anything, or generally accomplishes anything useful at all. It alienates moderates. |
Fixed it for you. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 8:54 am Post subject: |
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Isn't Zimbabwe on the UN human right commission?
The UN ought to be used like a cheap date. |
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just another day
Joined: 12 Jul 2007
Location: Living with the Alaskan Inuits!!
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| Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:06 am Post subject: |
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seems interesting
i dunno tho, isn't it naive to think that there is no repercussion from colonization and slavery? |
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thepeel
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:20 am Post subject: |
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seems interesting
i dunno tho, isn't it naive to think that there is no repercussion from colonization and slavery? |
What were the repercussions for korean on korean slavery/child slavery? Or, just another racist post. Eh! |
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thepeel
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:21 am Post subject: |
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| huffdaddy wrote: |
| Gopher wrote: |
The Current Events forum never produces any new insight, offers any constructive criticism of anything, or generally accomplishes anything useful at all. It alienates moderates. |
Fixed it for you. |
You didn't pay attention to the last conference, did you? |
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just another day
Joined: 12 Jul 2007
Location: Living with the Alaskan Inuits!!
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| Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:25 am Post subject: |
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seems interesting
i dunno tho, isn't it naive to think that there is no repercussion from colonization and slavery? |
What were the repercussions for korean on korean slavery/child slavery? Or, just another racist post. Eh! |
do you feel like an enslaved esl monkey?  |
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thepeel
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:47 am Post subject: |
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I don't work in esl. So, no. Don't you remember? When you said you were a finance guru in LA? Don't you remember how I tossed you around for a few pages and you felt compelled to delete all your posts? No? Think hard. Buy-side/sell-side.. You described your commute to work.. And then I trapped you and exposed you? No? Ring a bell?
You are in the homeland. Mother Korea. And it looks like most of the hakwon cowboys will be leaving soon. You just might be special now. So, relax, wait, and soon you'll get the respect you feel you deserve. No need to be a race-baiter for 8 hours a day. Aren't you bored? |
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just another day
Joined: 12 Jul 2007
Location: Living with the Alaskan Inuits!!
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| Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:51 am Post subject: |
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I don't work in esl. So, no. Don't you remember? When you said you were a finance guru in LA? Don't you remember how I tossed you around for a few pages and you felt compelled to delete all your posts? No? Think hard. Buy-side/sell-side.. You described your commute to work.. And then I trapped you and exposed you? No? Ring a bell?
You are in the homeland. Mother Korea. And it looks like most of the hakwon cowboys will be leaving soon. You just might be special now. So, relax, wait, and soon you'll get the respect you feel you deserve. No need to be a race-baiter for 8 hours a day. Aren't you bored? |
are u the 1st year who quit?
what industry were ur comps?
like i said, it gets a lot better once ur not an analyst anymore. |
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thepeel
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| Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:55 am Post subject: |
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Indeed I am. Trading is a horrible job, and one, for some reason, that I'm starting again in Feb. And you are the guy who 1) pretended to be in finance 2) pretended to be a girl 3) pretended to be white. Why?
Dude. Just be honest. You hate white people. I won't cry. Just stop dancing around it. Sing it on high. |
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just another day
Joined: 12 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 10:39 am Post subject: |
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Indeed I am. Trading is a horrible job, and one, for some reason, that I'm starting again in Feb. And you are the guy who 1) pretended to be in finance 2) pretended to be a girl 3) pretended to be white. Why?
Dude. Just be honest. You hate white people. I won't cry. Just stop dancing around it. Sing it on high. |
just because i criticize people on dave's doesn't mean i hate whites.
i think the white guys that are pretty cool are usually surfers, snowboarders, or played baseball.
since they don't play baseball, or surf in canada, maybe this is why dave's esl is so weird. |
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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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| Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 12:29 pm Post subject: |
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Canada Shuns UN Anti-Racism Conference
(Official Calls It 'Gong Show')
Wed Jan 23, 12:46 PM
By The Canadian Press
OTTAWA - The government is announcing Wednesday that Canada has abandoned a UN anti-racism conference slated to take place in South Africa next year.
A government official has told The Canadian Press the so-called Durban II conference has turned into a "gong show" with Libya elected to chair the gathering, Cuba appointed vice-chair and rapporteur, and anti-Israel rhetoric building.
The official, speaking on condition of anonymity, says the 2001 World Conference Against Racism in Durban was a fiasco as Arab and Muslim countries ganged up in their criticisms of Israel.
Israel and the United States walked out of that conference in protest; Canada remained in an effort to decry the attacks.
The official says things are not getting any better. For one thing, important prepatory meetings have been called on Jewish high holidays, preventing Israeli officials from participating.
The official said: "All the warning signs were there that Durban 2009 was going to be the same gong show as Durban 2001."
He says the conference is "dead in the water" as far as Canada is concerned.
"We're out," he said. "We're always interested in anti-racism forums, but this was a racism forum at the end of the day." |
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just another day
Joined: 12 Jul 2007
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its kind of sad how black jews (sephardics) are treated like second class citizens in israel.
this was not abraham's vision for israel. abraham was sumerian, in other words, altaic origins. |
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