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bassexpander
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 Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 3:57 pm Post subject: Double-dipping and Korean food |
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How many bacteria are passed by people eating from multiple dishes shared with neighbors? This study may give you an idea:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22957196/wid/11915773?gt1=10856
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| Last year the food microbiologist�s undergraduate students examined the effects of double dipping using volunteers, wheat crackers and several sample dips. They found that three to six double dips transferred about 10,000 bacteria from an eater�s mouth to the remaining dip sample.... |
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Binch Lover
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| Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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Who cares? If I hear another whiny American b1tch about double dipping, I'll lose my mind. The people who are most afraid of germs are those who get sick the most often in my opinion.
Case in point: my sister is a microbiologist and always going on about how such and such is disgusting and how many bacteria and so on. The rest of my family don't really care. My sister is basically permanently sick and sniffly and the rest of us are fine. I get sick about once a year I would say and I don't give two hoots who is double dipping as long as they are not visibly sick. |
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mistermasan
Joined: 20 Sep 2007
Location: 10+ yrs on Dave's ESL cafe
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| Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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| and typhoid mary didn't believe in germs. |
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sjrm
Joined: 27 Jul 2005
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| Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Binch Lover wrote: |
Who cares? If I hear another whiny American b1tch about double dipping, I'll lose my mind. The people who are most afraid of germs are those who get sick the most often in my opinion.
Case in point: my sister is a microbiologist and always going on about how such and such is disgusting and how many bacteria and so on. The rest of my family don't really care. My sister is basically permanently sick and sniffly and the rest of us are fine. I get sick about once a year I would say and I don't give two hoots who is double dipping as long as they are not visibly sick. |
so, the relevance of hepatitis being extremely widespread in korea has nothing to do with people sharing food constantly i guess. |
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markhan
Joined: 02 Aug 2006
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| Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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But "Binch Lover" does have a point. There was a study by Japanese researcher that many "germ-adverse" Japanese are likely to be more sick as their body is succesptible to even the slightest germ.
I personally noticed that Koreans wear light clothing (compare to Americans) even in the freezing temperature and yet I hardly see Koreans coming down with a cold.
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| Binch Lover wrote: |
Who cares? If I hear another whiny American b1tch about double dipping, I'll lose my mind. The people who are most afraid of germs are those who get sick the most often in my opinion.
Case in point: my sister is a microbiologist and always going on about how such and such is disgusting and how many bacteria and so on. The rest of my family don't really care. My sister is basically permanently sick and sniffly and the rest of us are fine. I get sick about once a year I would say and I don't give two hoots who is double dipping as long as they are not visibly sick. |
so, the relevance of hepatitis being extremely widespread in korea has nothing to do with people sharing food constantly i guess. |
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samd
Joined: 03 Jan 2007
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| Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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Binch Lover has an excellent point. People who share more germs have stronger immune systems.
My American relatives go nuts on the hand sanitizer, won't eat food off the same plate as anyone else, and are uptight in general. They get sick way more often than me.
I enjoy the food sharing in Korea. How do you expect to become close friends with someone here if you refuse to share food with them?
Unfortunately, if you're a germ freak, then Korea, and Asia in general, is not the place for you. |
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Kimchi Cowboy
Joined: 17 Sep 2006
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| Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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| If you get grossed out about sharing food, keep in mind that double-dipping also spread antigens & antibodies. |
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Chris Kwon
Joined: 23 Jan 2008
Location: North Korea
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| Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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| <--- double dipper with chips and salsa |
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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Binch Lover wrote: |
Who cares? If I hear another whiny American b1tch about double dipping, I'll lose my mind. The people who are most afraid of germs are those who get sick the most often in my opinion.
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U assume American? |
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jacob7207
Joined: 12 Feb 2007
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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| sjrm wrote: |
| Binch Lover wrote: |
Who cares? If I hear another whiny American b1tch about double dipping, I'll lose my mind. The people who are most afraid of germs are those who get sick the most often in my opinion.
Case in point: my sister is a microbiologist and always going on about how such and such is disgusting and how many bacteria and so on. The rest of my family don't really care. My sister is basically permanently sick and sniffly and the rest of us are fine. I get sick about once a year I would say and I don't give two hoots who is double dipping as long as they are not visibly sick. |
so, the relevance of hepatitis being extremely widespread in korea has nothing to do with people sharing food constantly i guess. |
You can't be serious.
It has a lot to do with personal hygene that many people don't give two shits about. It also has to do with eating raw seafood and toxin consumption, such as in large amounts of alcohol? Koreans? Raw seafood? Alcohol? Go figure.
You can't pinpoint the cause primarily on food sharing. That's ridiculous. |
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dogbert
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| Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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| markhan wrote: |
| I personally noticed that Koreans wear light clothing (compare to Americans) even in the freezing temperature and yet I hardly see Koreans coming down with a cold. |
Sometimes I wonder what alternate universe kyopos live in.
I see Koreans not only bundled up more than (this) American, but constantly repeating "아이우, 추워, 추워!" as some sort of bizarre mantra. Not to mention every other person on the subway seems to have a cold in the winter. |
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Chris Kwon
Joined: 23 Jan 2008
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| You know whats gross too? Not closing the toilet lid after taking a dump.. all those poo germs go everywhere including your tooth brush. |
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Mebertz
Joined: 16 Dec 2007
Location: Suncheon
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| Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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| jacob7207 wrote: |
It has a lot to do with personal hygene that many people don't give two *beep* about. It also has to do with eating raw seafood and toxin consumption, such as in large amounts of alcohol? Koreans? Raw seafood? Alcohol? Go figure.
You can't pinpoint the cause primarily on food sharing. That's ridiculous. |
It is all this, and it most definitely is food sharing as well. I have yet to meet a Korean who washes his/her hands after using the bathroom, yet we know that hands carry so much bacteria that it is a necessity to do so. That's fine for them, but not for me. Herpes simplex virus is spread from mouth to hand to contact with mouth. If chopsticks go into a bowl of food and a cold sore touches them, and then the chopsticks go back into the bowl, guess where the virus lurks? Every Korean I work with has cold sores periodically. I explained to them what they are and they all were amazed that it was a virus that is spread from person to person via kissing or mouth to skin contact. I don't care if they all have herpes, but I'm not getting it. I realize that it is just an inconsequential skin lesion, but I don't want one. They eat however they want, and I'm okay with it. I, however, never share with them and don't go out with them to eat. If they eat when I'm with them, cool. My appetite is ruined anyway, and just drinking a beer with them is good enough for me. I'm not catching any of their illnesses by being unsanitary, but that's just me. Everyone else, do what you think is best. I haven't been sick in 5 years except for a stuffy nose about 2 years ago. Maybe my town is different from the rest of Korea. I can only go by what I observe here, and it's a lifestyle, that if replicated on my part, would prove highly unhealthy.
Cheers,
Mike |
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Fresh Prince
Joined: 05 Dec 2006
Location: The glorious nation of Korea
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| Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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| The first week I arrived in Korea, I shared a plate of rapoki with a coworker. The next day, she was extremely sick, but she came to work anyway. I felt really bad because I thought that through sharing the plate, I exposed her to some Western germ that I was immune to but she had no tolerance built up for. |
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james129
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| exposure to germs makes you stronger |
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