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Ya-ta Boy
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 Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 4:08 am Post subject: Christian Creep is Destroying Qatar! |
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First Christian church opens in Qatar
The Pope is coming! The Pope is coming! Islam is doomed.
DOHA, Qatar - Thousands of worshippers gathered Saturday for the consecration of Qatar's first Christian church, ending decades of underground worship in this Sunni Muslim and deeply conservative Persian Gulf nation.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080315/ap_on_re_mi_ea/qatar_catholic_church
The first step down the slippery slope has been taken. Now it's just a matter of time before the Christian dogs take over our schools, and before you know it, our women. We're doomed. We'll be absorbed into Christendom. They'll refuse to circumcise their sons. Their women will refuse to wear veils and flaunt their hair in public. Woe is us! |
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Tony_Balony
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| Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 4:23 am Post subject: |
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| You forgot about the bomb aspect. When do they get the bombs? |
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CentralCali
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| Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 4:32 am Post subject: |
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| Oh, please. You're talking about Qatar, not Saudi Arabia or the Afghanistan of the Taliban. For the last seven years, there has been a Conference of the 3 Religions held annually in Qatar. Another note is that citizenship is not denied to non-Muslims. |
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Ya-ta Boy
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| Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 4:38 am Post subject: |
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That's an even more pathetic post than usual, Tony. A Wahhabist state is opening up 6 churches and you have no comeback?
Could it be the people of Qatar have more faith in their faith and culture than certain of our members here at Dave's do in ours? |
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deadman
Joined: 27 May 2006
Location: Suwon
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| Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 4:38 am Post subject: |
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| Somebody call Mark Steyn and give him the good news!!! |
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spliff
Joined: 19 Jan 2004
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| Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 4:40 am Post subject: |
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| Nothing new, Tony's comebacks are usually always quite lame, it's his trademark. |
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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 5:18 am Post subject: |
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| Yataboy, weren't you kind of criticizing Igot this Fender for anti-Semitism, but isn't this post kind of Muslim/Arab bating in a way? Qatar is conservative in many ways, but the sheikh has supported Al Jazeera and also was open to relations with Israel. Having more freedom for Christians is a good thing, not a reason to slam Qatar. What about that? |
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bigverne
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| Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 8:04 am Post subject: |
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DOHA, Qatar - Thousands of worshippers gathered Saturday for the consecration of Qatar's first Christian church
Are you trying to draw a parallel between the opening of one church (which, by the way, is not even allowed to look like a church) and the mass immigration of Muslims to the West and the subsequent mosques, religious centres and madrassas being built every week, which number in the thousands, and which preach, very often, virulent anti-Western hatred, and whose attendees have been known to murder and kill people in the name of that said religion? |
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bigverne
Joined: 12 May 2004
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| Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 8:05 am Post subject: |
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| DOHA, Qatar - Thousands of worshippers gathered Saturday for the consecration of Qatar's first Christian church |
Are you trying to draw a parallel between the opening of one church (which, by the way, is not even allowed to look like a church) and the mass immigration of Muslims to the West and the subsequent mosques, religious centres and madrassas being built every week, which number in the thousands, and which preach, very often, virulent anti-Western hatred, and whose attendees have been known to murder and kill people in the name of that said religion? |
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Nowhere Man
Joined: 08 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 8:31 am Post subject: ... |
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| which preach, very often, virulent anti-Western hatred, and whose attendees have been known to murder and kill people in the name of that said religion? |
Maybe you can open a church in the Middle East. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 1:50 pm Post subject: |
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| isn't this post kind of Muslim/Arab bating in a way? |
Who my OP was baiting was not Moslems but the kind of people who get hysterical about Moslem immigration. Like bigverne, like the_peel. You know, the kind who say Islam is a monolith that doesn't evolve and is only capable of aggression.
I was curious how that ilk would handle this event. bigverne complied. He minimized it--it's only one church--by ignoring that 5 more are under construction. He ignored that this happened in a Wahhabi state, the most conservative brand of Islam that I'm aware of. He turned a blind eye to the fact that Qatar's population is 900,000 and there are 150,000 foreigners there. (I don't know if the foreigners are included in the total or not.) Those numbers are at least comparable to those in Western countries.
Side note: A week or so ago there was a report that a woman is now licensed to perform marriages in Egypt, another first. In another report recently, al-Jazeera ran a program where a man criticized Moslem reaction to the Danish cartoons. (And had to quickly recant.) Reza Aslan is right. The reformation is happening, regardless of our ignorance of it. |
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bucheon bum
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| Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
the fact that Qatar's population is 900,000 and there are 150,000 foreigners there. (I don't know if the foreigners are included in the total or not.) Those numbers are at least comparable to those in Western countries.
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Looks like that includes foreigners. The place is growing quickly. As of 2004, the population was 744,000 people.
Qatar Embassy website
Qatar's leadership is being smart. Its competing with the UAE and needs to do whatever it can to distinguish itself from both the UAE and other countries in the region. |
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Ya-ta Boy
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Thanks for that info, bb.
I know you have had more personal experience in that part of the world than anyone else here on the board, and probably keep up on events there more than most of us do. Have you seen any other signs of change recently? |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Ugg Korean christians are bad enough. |
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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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| bigverne wrote: |
DOHA, Qatar - Thousands of worshippers gathered Saturday for the consecration of Qatar's first Christian church
Are you trying to draw a parallel between the opening of one church (which, by the way, is not even allowed to look like a church) and the mass immigration of Muslims to the West and the subsequent mosques, religious centres and madrassas being built every week, which number in the thousands, and which preach, very often, virulent anti-Western hatred, and whose attendees have been known to murder and kill people in the name of that said religion? |
You seem to be looking for the dirt, not the gold. If that part of the world makes some steps towards liberalization, pluralism that's a good thing, not a bad thing. If Saudi Arabia is almost ready to let their women finally drive a car, that's a good thing. If Egypt after 2001 or so let Egyptian women give citizenship to their children even if the father is not Egyptian that's a good thing. If Egypt let a woman conduct marriages that's not a bad thing. If Turkey is purging parts of the hadiths that were added by certain rulers for consolidating control in the past, it may be a good thing. How do you know, by the way, that Muslim mosques in the United States preach anti-American rhetoric. If that were the case, many Muslim Americans would report those imams, the FBI would then be monitoring them. There are informants, you do know that?
As far as Korean churches, this is not going to be like a Korean church, it would be more Western European style either mainstream Catholic or Protestant of the European variety. The Korean churches are like fire-brand Evangelical Churches of the U.S.'s deep South but with added materialism and more individualism. I don't think they'd be the same at all. |
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