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thepeel
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 Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:53 am Post subject: Jain's "lay siege to Australian hospital" |
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After the death of a young Muslim man in a car crash in Sydney last month, an Islamic crowd invaded a hospital in order to stop medical tests being carried out on the body in contravention of Sharia law.
If the report is true, then this is another example of a global campaign by fundamentalist Muslims to replace civil law by Sharia - a process that has already taken root in British cities.
The antecedent to the Muslim incursion on the Hospital came about on Monday the 17 December last, when a young Muslim male was airlifted to the Liverpool Hospital's emergency ward by helicopter. The 19-year-old had been in a serious car accident, his car left the road and crashed into a tree � he died of his injuries, and it seems he and his hijab-wearing girl friend had been celebrating the end of Ramadan.
At roughly 2.00pm to 2.30pm at the request of three or more Muslim men calling incessantly on their mobiles, scores of Muslims began descending on the hospital's emergency department. Hospital patients and staff were treated to an unimaginable spectacle: the hospital's emergency section was now in the process of lockdown. They [Muslims] arrived by private cars, panel vans, taxis, etc. There must have been hundreds of calls made. In one hour approximately 150 angry Muslims were confronting a confused and petrified nursing and security staff. The nurses especially were visibly shaken and fearful. Some nurses unsuccessfully tried to reason with them above the wailing: �Please, can you keep the noise down, there are sick patients inside.� Of course they wouldn't listen � The police made an appearance. Six squad cars arrived containing twenty or so police. They were armed and in uniform.
There was a standoff outside the hospital doors. The siege lasted almost three hours. A flashpoint occurred at one stage and reinforcements were called: three fully laden unmarked police cars arrived. Between eight to ten undercover police faced off the Muslims assembled on the other side of the road. The police deliberately displayed their pistols without drawing them, to show they meant business. At this point in time about four to six ambulances waiting in their designated area drove off as one and didn't reappear until the Muslim crowd had dispersed some time later �
At the centre of the action was an Egyptian cab driver. He stood out as the commander of the situation as soon as he arrived. He was directing traffic. He ordered the women to surround the bed of the deceased, so as to stop the body being taken to the hospital mortuary, or whatever. The Muslim women abused the nurses for trying to carry out their tasks. �You haven't any feelings like us; we have a dead man here,� they said as sat or stood around the bed in tight formation, effectively cordoning it off.
The taxi driver was speaking in Arabic, of course. The Muslim people followed every word he said. It was like an army operation. �This is against the Islamic religion, they are not to interfere with the body�. He called for someone to come and pray and then the body could be taken away.
The police commander came to realise he had to negotiate through the taxi driver. The cries were incessant, they weren't listening, only to the taxi man: �We must have a quick burial�, shrieks of "No, you can't take him", "Many sheiks must come to take him to Genah (paradise)". Over time the assembled Muslims did quieten down a bit.
The deal accepted by the police commander correlated to Sharia law and not Australian law. It certainly wasn't a compromise position at all, it was capitulation. A family member was allowed to stay overnight with the deceased, to ensure that the blood samples or any other forensic testing would not occur. |
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/ukcorrespondents/holysmoke/jan08/muslimslaysiegetoaustralianhospital.htm
Threaten violence, get sharia law. A pattern is forming.... |
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mistermasan
Joined: 20 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:04 am Post subject: |
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| arrest them for trespassing. deport. end of problem. |
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yetanotherSarah
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| Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:05 am Post subject: |
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| Your thread title is a little misleading considering that the article is about Muslims and not Jains. These are two radically different religions, how'd you come to mix them up? Jains tend not to "lay seige" to anything. In fact they adhere so carefully to the concept of 'Ahimsa' or non-violence that they don't even eat eggplant, lest they kill the microscopic organisms that live in them. |
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thepeel
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| Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:10 am Post subject: |
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| arrest them for trespassing. deport. end of problem. |
That would be intolerant and bigoted. Almost nazi-like. Hitler wouldn't even be so horrible, apparently. We need to make a better attempt to understand and empathize with them to help them become part of the beautiful multicultural mosaic. Diversity is our strength (repeat that endlessly until 1) it has a meaning and 2) you agree with the meaning). Perhaps they need muslim only hospitals? We clearly can't understand their islamic needs not to have toxicology tests done on a dead kid after a car accident. Who are we to want to find out what causes car accidents? That is Western cultural imperealism, indeed. Maybe the nurses need to be taken for anti-islamophobia sensitivity training. |
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thepeel
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| Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:12 am Post subject: |
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| Your thread title is a little misleading considering that the article is about Muslims and not Jains. These are two radically different religions, how'd you come to mix them up? Jains tend not to "lay seige" to anything. |
My mistake. I just always mix up those two religions. They are so similar in cultural outcome that I can't keep track. Hell, one day a Jain is in the news for refusing to harm any life and the next day a "radical" muslim is in the news for trying to indiscriminately take any life. I can't keep it straight! |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:22 am Post subject: |
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| I can't keep it straight! |
Perhaps you need to get your hate of 'other' under control. |
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thepeel
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| Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:26 am Post subject: |
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| thepeel wrote: |
| mistermasan wrote: |
| arrest them for trespassing. deport. end of problem. |
That would be intolerant and bigoted. Almost nazi-like. Hitler wouldn't even be so horrible, apparently. |
| Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
Perhaps you need to get your hate of 'other' under control. |
See! Deport them? Man, to even discuss it honestly is to be hateful! |
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mistermasan
Joined: 20 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:27 am Post subject: |
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we are in a long war on terrorism. we cannot let our emergency rooms, our hospitals to be blockaded by religious fanatics- or fanatics of any other ilk.
as always, say no to theocracies. |
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happeningthang
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| Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:43 am Post subject: |
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Reading the "article" the bias was pretty evident, and now it seems as though it wasn't even real.
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My heart sank yesterday as I read messages of support from anti-Islamist contacts of mine saying that the Australian media were too politically correct to report on the story, and that was why no Google search yielded anything. Yeah, right.
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http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/ukcorrespondents/holysmoke/jan08/spreadcounterknowledge.htm
It's from a blog called dimmi watch - so it could've been considered a dubious source from the start. |
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thepeel
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| Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:59 am Post subject: |
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| The Telegraph reported it. I'm quite sure if it is incorrect, they will retract it. It is entirely consistent with the multicultural media not to report the "small incidents" that might cause the population to have accurate ideas of the experiment. |
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happeningthang
Joined: 26 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 5:05 am Post subject: |
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| The Telegraph reported it. I'm quite sure if it is incorrect, they will retract it. It is entirely consistent with the multicultural media not to report the "small incidents" that might cause the population to have accurate ideas of the experiment. |
The link given is the retraction from the Telegraph. Obviously a bastion of journalism. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 5:15 am Post subject: |
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| It is entirely consistent with the multicultural media not to report the "small incidents" that might cause the population to have accurate ideas of the experiment. |
And now we're drifting off into conspiracy theory land. What is it with all you libertarian/anarchist types? |
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thepeel
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| Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 5:20 am Post subject: |
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| It is entirely consistent with the multicultural media not to report the "small incidents" that might cause the population to have accurate ideas of the experiment. |
And now we're drifting off into conspiracy theory land. What is it with all you libertarian/anarchist types? |
You know what is really sad, you and some others (a furry little friend) have actually let the nonsense on daves actually emotionally upset you for weeks now. Clearly, you have this bizarre obsession with an idea you don't understand. And it is impacting about 40% of all you post. Dude. It is just the internet. Go have a steam. Play a video game. Get laid (take the pill first, to avoid embarrassment). But to let dave's actually upset you like this? To the point that you are obsessing? Man. That is really pathetic. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 5:26 am Post subject: |
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 You're projecting again, peel. You really should guard against that. You have a very obvious tendency to attribute your feelings to others. |
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thepeel
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| Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 5:31 am Post subject: |
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| Um, maybe do a search through your last 100 posts. Try to find a pattern of obsession. Try to be objective. Try. Take your time. No libertarian or anarchist will get out of line on the CE while your gone. |
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