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SCHOOLS BLACKLISTING TEACHERS: FACT OR FICTION
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inukshuk



Joined: 27 Jan 2008
Location: korea

PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:19 pm    Post subject: SCHOOLS BLACKLISTING TEACHERS: FACT OR FICTION Reply with quote

I've heard about it. Anyone have info whether teachers can be blacklisted from working in Korea, or not.

I'm wondering if I've been blacklisted for complaining about a korean teacher abusing students.

cheers
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:54 pm    Post subject: Re: SCHOOLS BLACKLISTING TEACHERS: FACT OR FICTION Reply with quote

inukshuk wrote:
I've heard about it. Anyone have info whether teachers can be blacklisted from working in Korea, or not.

I'm wondering if I've been blacklisted for complaining about a korean teacher abusing students.

cheers


The various hakwon associations mantain a blacklist of their own but it has nothing to do with immigration and may stop you from working in a city but won't keep you out of the country or stop you from finding a job in another city.

Immigration maintains a list of persons who are persona non grata (banned from entry) for those who have had a run-in with the law or violated immigration rules (and been caught).

It is unlikely that you have been legally banned without a conviction or being fined or at least prosecuted by some legal authority.

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Tokki1



Joined: 14 May 2007
Location: The gap between the Korean superiority and inferiority complex

PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had recruiters tell me that 'if I break my current contract' immigration will not give me another visa.

Fear tactics.

Hakwons may keep your name and pass it between them but I doubt there's a common blacklist database or site they use. It's b.s.

Supply and demand. And with the new legislation demand is going to skyrocket.

It's a myth.
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Corky



Joined: 06 Jan 2004

PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 12:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've seen a list from a hakwon owner's association. It exists. I'll try to find it again.
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Tokki1



Joined: 14 May 2007
Location: The gap between the Korean superiority and inferiority complex

PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL if I'm not blacklisted in the area I worked for years then it's impossible to be blacklisted. They don't care, as long as you look half decent and do your job.
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Corky



Joined: 06 Jan 2004

PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 2:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks to the Marmot:

http://www.kftra.co.kr/black_list.asp

Don't know how they can tell anyone's name from that.


From this blog article:
http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/08/17/english-teacher-blacklist/

A search for Tokki1 yielded no results. Maybe you're just not trying hard enough?
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 2:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If your name does appear on the blacklist in the link above, you have grounds for a suit. The list is illegal in that it is slander/libel. It is also an attempt to interfere with your right to seek employment.
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If your name is �̸� �˻� or ����, you are in DEEP doodoo.


Lots of people who've filed with Labor or been fired by crappy hagwons have been hired at other teaching jobs.
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Homer
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Part fact, part fiction.
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robyn1882



Joined: 19 May 2006

PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 6:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="CentralCali"]If your name does appear on the blacklist in the link above, you have grounds for a suit. The list is illegal in that it is slander/libel. It is also an attempt to interfere with your right to seek employment.[/quote

My name was on this link in 2006 and I emailed the people responsible for the website and threatened legal action and my name has since been removed from this list.
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Roch



Joined: 24 Apr 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 6:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Homer wrote:
Part fact, part fiction.


Rochie and Bullwinkle are part of the former section of Teachuhs!

Homer, check out www.icebergradio.com

R
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Roch



Joined: 24 Apr 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 6:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="robyn1882"]
CentralCali wrote:
If your name does appear on the blacklist in the link above, you have grounds for a suit. The list is illegal in that it is slander/libel. It is also an attempt to interfere with your right to seek employment.[/quote

My name was on this link in 2006 and I emailed the people responsible for the website and threatened legal action and my name has since been removed from this list.


Richard Kranium just sent me a very urgent Private Message-uh. It states that Rochie should type the word, "Word!", again.

Alright, here it goes, eh, Ree-Shard:

"Word!"

Nice, huh?!

Rochie
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Tokki1



Joined: 14 May 2007
Location: The gap between the Korean superiority and inferiority complex

PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Corky wrote:
Thanks to the Marmot:

http://www.kftra.co.kr/black_list.asp

Don't know how they can tell anyone's name from that.


From this blog article:
http://www.rjkoehler.com/2006/08/17/english-teacher-blacklist/

A search for Tokki1 yielded no results. Maybe you're just not trying hard enough?


I'm on there.
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Corky



Joined: 06 Jan 2004

PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's awesome. You should contact them and tell them you're going to take them to court.
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expat2001



Joined: 28 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tokki1 wrote:
I've had recruiters tell me that 'if I break my current contract' immigration will not give me another visa.

Fear tactics.

Hakwons may keep your name and pass it between them but I doubt there's a common blacklist database or site they use. It's b.s.

Supply and demand. And with the new legislation demand is going to skyrocket.

It's a myth.


Actually recruiters have a black list for BOTH SCHOOL AND TEACHERS
However they call it a RED LIST
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