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rico4444
Joined: 16 Jul 2007
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 Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 3:02 pm Post subject: YBM-Sisa |
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| I've been offerd a job at YBM-Sisa.....Yeoksam branch. Anyone have any experience there, or knowledge about YBM? They offered split shifts to begin with (yech!!) but that'll change eventually. And they don't offer housing (they only give key money). Is that typical of the large schools that teach adults? |
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expat2001
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 4:43 am Post subject: |
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| From my experience , the only people who like YBM-SISA-ECC ,are the ones who dont realise that they ve been screwed. If you really look at any of those contracts , they are awful. You are surely asking for problems if you work for them. |
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soviet_man
Joined: 23 Apr 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 11:16 am Post subject: |
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As I understand Yeoksam is ELS not ECC ... meaning adults not kids. So that is a different ball game to a typical haggie.
I worked for YBM for 1 year (before moving on to another school) and there were moments of great fun and also weeks and weeks of endless blandness. 
YBM is such a mixed bag - some are "company-owned" others franchised (like say McDonalds). Some YBM's are well run, others totally hopeless. Yeoksam is in a $$$ area, but language schools are a dime a dozen in Gangnam, so it is also a lot of pressure to retain students.
YBM ELS regularly do not provide accommodation in their contracts and split shifts are common. Really need to speak to them and do your research before signing. |
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mastap
Joined: 10 Apr 2007
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| Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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| soviet_man wrote: |
As I understand Yeoksam is ELS not ECC ... meaning adults not kids. So that is a different ball game to a typical haggie.
I worked for YBM for 1 year (before moving on to another school) and there were moments of great fun and also weeks and weeks of endless blandness.
YBM is such a mixed bag - some are "company-owned" others franchised (like say McDonalds). Some YBM's are well run, others totally hopeless. Yeoksam is in a $$$ area, but language schools are a dime a dozen in Gangnam, so it is also a lot of pressure to retain students.
YBM ELS regularly do not provide accommodation in their contracts and split shifts are common. Really need to speak to them and do your research before signing. |
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Intrepid
Joined: 13 May 2004
Location: Yongin
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| Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:42 pm Post subject: ELS vs. ECC |
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| Only with ECC are you at risk of working for a franchise. All the ELS schools are under YBM. ELS Yeoksam, if I remember correctly, is still under the general direction of Hannah Yoo, who runs things fairly for the teachers. Salaries are not great, housing is not provided (but they give you 10 million key money interest-free, which is not bad), but it's safe, you teach adults, and you're in the center of things Seoul-wise. Infinitely better than making 200-300,000 more per month to work in some crappy little bedroom community teaching screaming hellions. |
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expat2001
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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I dont get it. A few years ago , anybody with more then a years experience wouldnt go near an ECC / YMB. ECC /YBM would hire anyone ,with a years' or more experience , on the spot!
Now for some reason its viewed as an ok company.It seems to be up there with PAGODA and CDI.
However , I havent really seen or heard of any great changes with ECC /YBM.
If u really look at the contracts , they suck
the company maybe promoting its self as changed , but its all BS.
Stay away! |
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Netz
Joined: 11 Oct 2004
Location: a parallel universe where people and places seem to be the exact opposite of "normal"
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| Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 6:45 pm Post subject: Re: YBM-Sisa |
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| rico4444 wrote: |
| I've been offerd a job at YBM-Sisa.....Yeoksam branch. Anyone have any experience there, or knowledge about YBM? They offered split shifts to begin with (yech!!) but that'll change eventually. And they don't offer housing (they only give key money). Is that typical of the large schools that teach adults? |
I've heard from others that thier outsourcing division is one of the most worthless, unscrupulous, and greedy group of people you could ever deal with.
Things may have changed, but as mentioned above, this franchise has not has a good reputation on this board over the years. |
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explorer25
Joined: 18 Jul 2004
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 7:17 pm Post subject: ybm -psa |
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Anyone who is wondering about YBM schools, should not worry....
I work at yongsan psa, and i love the teaching hours!! u teach three to four hours a day!!! classes are 40min. (40min is considered an hour here..)...u get alot of breaks in between ur lesson..phonics, math, writing, and reading...that's it ! that's all u teach... anyone who is interested in teaching please pm me.... i'll give u details....
WE NEED 3 FOREIGN TEACHERS.... for march...all finishing up their contracts... *-* thnx. ! |
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bellum99
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: don't need to know
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| Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 8:24 pm Post subject: Re: ybm -psa |
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| explorer25 wrote: |
Anyone who is wondering about YBM schools, should not worry....
I work at yongsan psa, and i love the teaching hours!! u teach three to four hours a day!!! classes are 40min. (40min is considered an hour here..)...u get alot of breaks in between ur lesson..phonics, math, writing, and reading...that's it ! that's all u teach... anyone who is interested in teaching please pm me.... i'll give u details....
WE NEED 3 FOREIGN TEACHERS.... for march...all finishing up their contracts... *-* thnx. ! |
Listen Satan...tempt us not. I cast you out..out I say. |
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mastap
Joined: 10 Apr 2007
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| Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 8:45 pm Post subject: Re: ybm -psa |
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| explorer25 wrote: |
Anyone who is wondering about YBM schools, should not worry....
I work at yongsan psa, and i love the teaching hours!! u teach three to four hours a day!!! classes are 40min. (40min is considered an hour here..)...u get alot of breaks in between ur lesson..phonics, math, writing, and reading...that's it ! that's all u teach... anyone who is interested in teaching please pm me.... i'll give u details....
WE NEED 3 FOREIGN TEACHERS.... for march...all finishing up their contracts... *-* thnx. ! |
Listen Satan...tempt us not. I cast you out..out I say. |
what is psa?
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explorer25
Joined: 18 Jul 2004
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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| PSA - Pre -school Academy.... 5, 6, 7, 8 yr olds...... u get to pick which age to teach...i teach 7 and 8 yr olds.... |
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PGF
Joined: 27 Nov 2006
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| Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Stay away from the YBMs that do not include accommodations. There are better chains out there that pay more, give you less hours and throw in a decent studio. |
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Mr. Pink
Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: China
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| Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 10:36 pm Post subject: Re: ybm -psa |
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| explorer25 wrote: |
Anyone who is wondering about YBM schools, should not worry....
I work at yongsan psa, and i love the teaching hours!! u teach three to four hours a day!!! classes are 40min. (40min is considered an hour here..)...u get alot of breaks in between ur lesson..phonics, math, writing, and reading...that's it ! that's all u teach... anyone who is interested in teaching please pm me.... i'll give u details....
WE NEED 3 FOREIGN TEACHERS.... for march...all finishing up their contracts... *-* thnx. ! |
Ya so you have to be there from 9am to 4:30pm but you only actually work half of that time. Plus having to sit in the classroom as the other teacher does their job - no way. Having to eat with the kids - no way. They don't really pay an experienced teacher what they are worth, the holidays suck, even if you have your own house, they still hit ya for a 600k "deposit" - and the worst thing of all is their contracts are inflexible. They use the standard crap for everyone...
I don't want to totally trash the job, as if you are new and don't have your own house I am sure the job is a good "first" job...they do give you an apartment, relocation allowance, and airfare.
However, for people beyond their first year...their are way better paying gigs out there for less work/restrictions. |
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PGF
Joined: 27 Nov 2006
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| Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 10:40 pm Post subject: Re: ybm -psa |
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| Mr. Pink wrote: |
| explorer25 wrote: |
Anyone who is wondering about YBM schools, should not worry....
I work at yongsan psa, and i love the teaching hours!! u teach three to four hours a day!!! classes are 40min. (40min is considered an hour here..)...u get alot of breaks in between ur lesson..phonics, math, writing, and reading...that's it ! that's all u teach... anyone who is interested in teaching please pm me.... i'll give u details....
WE NEED 3 FOREIGN TEACHERS.... for march...all finishing up their contracts... *-* thnx. ! |
Ya so you have to be there from 9am to 4:30pm but you only actually work half of that time. Plus having to sit in the classroom as the other teacher does their job - no way. Having to eat with the kids - no way. They don't really pay an experienced teacher what they are worth, the holidays suck, even if you have your own house, they still hit ya for a 600k "deposit" - and the worst thing of all is their contracts are inflexible. They use the standard crap for everyone...
I don't want to totally trash the job, as if you are new and don't have your own house I am sure the job is a good "first" job...they do give you an apartment, relocation allowance, and airfare.
However, for people beyond their first year...their are way better paying gigs out there for less work/restrictions. |
YBM's adult program does not give you an apt. Just key money. Strictly for the newbie with no internet access at home., ie., no research. |
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mastap
Joined: 10 Apr 2007
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| Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 4:26 am Post subject: Re: ybm -psa |
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| PGF wrote: |
| Mr. Pink wrote: |
| explorer25 wrote: |
Anyone who is wondering about YBM schools, should not worry....
I work at yongsan psa, and i love the teaching hours!! u teach three to four hours a day!!! classes are 40min. (40min is considered an hour here..)...u get alot of breaks in between ur lesson..phonics, math, writing, and reading...that's it ! that's all u teach... anyone who is interested in teaching please pm me.... i'll give u details....
WE NEED 3 FOREIGN TEACHERS.... for march...all finishing up their contracts... *-* thnx. ! |
Ya so you have to be there from 9am to 4:30pm but you only actually work half of that time. Plus having to sit in the classroom as the other teacher does their job - no way. Having to eat with the kids - no way. They don't really pay an experienced teacher what they are worth, the holidays suck, even if you have your own house, they still hit ya for a 600k "deposit" - and the worst thing of all is their contracts are inflexible. They use the standard crap for everyone...
I don't want to totally trash the job, as if you are new and don't have your own house I am sure the job is a good "first" job...they do give you an apartment, relocation allowance, and airfare.
However, for people beyond their first year...their are way better paying gigs out there for less work/restrictions. |
YBM's adult program does not give you an apt. Just key money. Strictly for the newbie with no internet access at home., ie., no research. |
i hear what u are saying, but can u name some schools that u recommend? cause i really don't think there are that many options for teaching adults. |
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