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JoongAng journalist looking for unfairly treated teachers
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trachys



Joined: 01 Mar 2007
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 10:44 pm    Post subject: JoongAng journalist looking for unfairly treated teachers Reply with quote

I know her to be very sympathetic to wronged employees, so if you want to tell your story, or the story of a "friend":

Ms IL Hyun Baek
[email protected]
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Whistleblower



Joined: 03 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps she should take interest in this article:

http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=115323

The school has not provided any National Health Insurance which is an insult to the teachers in Korea and the victim has third degree burns. The school is not coughing up any money and the victim has to come up with $100,000 for life saving surgery.

Come on. We all come to Korea for the best intentions and help educate Korean citizens and teachers get treated like this. Something has to be done.

I want to see the story on the front page of the newspaper with his photograph of his horrendous burns. That will make Koreans think about how they treat foreigners in their country!
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spliff



Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand

PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The national health insurance would not have covered it anyway. You need secondary insurance to be covered for something like this.
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Suwoner10



Joined: 10 Dec 2007

PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 11:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spliff wrote:
The national health insurance would not have covered it anyway. You need secondary insurance to be covered for something like this.


Actually, a high percentage of something like this WOULD be covered, perhaps 80%. It's stuff like MRI's that are not covered. 20,000 vs. 100,000 is a significant difference.

It would also depend on how this happened. If he did it himself by cooking after coming home drunk and falling asleep, or smoking in bed and falling asleep--something like that, he'd be responsible. But if it's a building malfunction of some sort, and there were no smoke detectors, the landlord will have to pony up.

As should his fraternity alumni.
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Whistleblower



Joined: 03 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bump.


This should be in the papers. The NHI would contribute to a large percentage to the hospital bills but due to no NHI (which is legally expected from employers) he has to pay now out of his own pocket. This is an injustice and a very good example of why the Government should change their policy on Hagwons and NHI.

Get it in the papers now! Imagine if that person was you!

If you want to see him he is in Gangnam Songshim Hospital. Perhaps his school is in Gangnam also. If some knows the address of the school please give it. I am sure the owners are trying to find a replacement rather than make Billy better.
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crusher_of_heads



Joined: 23 Feb 2007
Location: kimbop and kimchi for kimberly!!!!

PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 12:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ALL Korean journalists and academics are corrupt.
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marlow



Joined: 06 Feb 2005

PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 12:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whistleblower wrote:
The NHI would contribute to a large percentage to the hospital bills but due to no NHI (which is legally expected from employers) he has to pay now out of his own pocket. This is an injustice and a very good example of why the Government should change their policy on Hagwons and NHI.

Get it in the papers now! Imagine if that person was you!


Right, the employer sponsored this person.
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 1:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Suwoner10 wrote:
spliff wrote:
The national health insurance would not have covered it anyway. You need secondary insurance to be covered for something like this.


Actually, a high percentage of something like this WOULD be covered, perhaps 80%. It's stuff like MRI's that are not covered. 20,000 vs. 100,000 is a significant difference.

It would also depend on how this happened. If he did it himself by cooking after coming home drunk and falling asleep, or smoking in bed and falling asleep--something like that, he'd be responsible. But if it's a building malfunction of some sort, and there were no smoke detectors, the landlord will have to pony up.

As should his fraternity alumni.


Huh, what? His fraternity alumni should have to pony up if it's the landlord's screw-up? I think you may have misworded that comment.

{Edited for spelling.}


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mrsquirrel



Joined: 13 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 3:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

why don't you just quit and come back in August to a new school with all your paperwork.

Make your life easier.
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Smee



Joined: 24 Dec 2004
Location: Jeollanam-do

PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 5:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Will she be writing for the English or the Korean version? If it's for the English version, there's no reason to even bother because nothing will come of it. You'd get a wider audience on Dave's. Sadly, too many foreign writers for the papers are deluded into thinking they make a difference.

If she's writing for the Korean version . . . well, nothing will come of it, but at least Koreans would be more likely to see it. Of course, Korean "journalists" aren't to be trusted, and routinely misquote and misattribute in order to fit the article they have in mind. And there's no reason to help a "journalist" meet a deadline by divulging information that will get you SUED FOR LIBEL (remember the Zen Kimchi case?), especially when absolutely no good will come from the story.
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trachys



Joined: 01 Mar 2007
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 7:37 am    Post subject: what good? Reply with quote

JoongAng is a Korean language daily, though they translate material for their English website and the IHT. It's the second largest paper in the country, so the piece(s) will be read by many.

The good that could come from such stories: increased awareness of the unfair and unlawful treatment of teachers, most of whom, due to unreasonable work visa restrictions, are forced to rely on the good faith of their employers. Increased awareness in turn increases pressure on the Ministries of Labor, Justice, and Education to make reforms in the industry.

Or if you like, we can just console/attack each other at places like eslcafe.com.
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PRagic



Joined: 24 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Off the top of my head, just have her track down ANY of the former employees of SNU, Konkuk University, Korea University, or Yonsei's ELI. ALL of these places screwed over their long-term employees at one point or another during their 'transitions' (read: conversion to a cheaper program with less qualified teachers).

I'm sure other posters will be able to provide other examples. This is just a start.
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Boodleheimer



Joined: 10 Mar 2006
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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TheUrbanMyth



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 5:30 pm    Post subject: Re: what good? Reply with quote

trachys wrote:
JoongAng is a Korean language daily, though they translate material for their English website and the IHT. It's the second largest paper in the country, so the piece(s) will be read by many.

The good that could come from such stories: increased awareness of the unfair and unlawful treatment of teachers, most of whom, due to unreasonable work visa restrictions, are forced to rely on the good faith of their employers. Increased awareness in turn increases pressure on the Ministries of Labor, Justice, and Education to make reforms in the industry.

Or if you like, we can just console/attack each other at places like eslcafe.com.


[bolding mine)
Do you really think the Ministries will care? They don't even care about protests from their own people (some of who set themselves on fire). And I highly doubt that the vast majority of Koreans will care about foreign teachers that much to make reforms...unless said reforms are tougher...like the new E-2 visa restrictions.
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IlIlNine



Joined: 15 Jun 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

how about teachers treated unfairly by the media? Smile
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