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Ideas on Teaching Large Classes Oral Communication

 
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MA_TESOL



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:41 pm    Post subject: Ideas on Teaching Large Classes Oral Communication Reply with quote

i will be teaching classes of University students; 30-55 a class. I am use to class sizes of 12 or less. How do you work with large groups, especially when it comes to assessment and grades
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Hyeon Een



Joined: 24 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 3:17 am    Post subject: Re: Ideas on Teaching Large Classes Oral Communication Reply with quote

MA_TESOL wrote:
i will be teaching classes of University students; 30-55 a class. I am use to class sizes of 12 or less. How do you work with large groups, especially when it comes to assessment and grades


You're the MA TESOL, tell us =)

On Assessment:
For me personally, I find it a little difficult. It depends on what classes you're teaching to be honest though. If you're teaching compulsory freshmen English classes you'll find that you have a good range of students: Some who care, some who don't give a crap and so on. With this number of students, especially if you're teaching several classes, it's difficult to get to know them all. I rely on written and listening tests pretty much to assess them. I don't have the time to get to know them all well enough to assess them in other ways. Some of my co-workers do 2 minute interviews at the end of the semester. I don't really see any advantage in doing that over a 1 hour written test for assessment. In an oral communication class ideally you DO want to test them on their.. oral communication; but with so many students assessing them orally in a meaningful way is almost impossible. Anyway with the freshmen classes you'll find a huge range of students, so grading on a curve (as you'll probably have to do) is fairly easy.

I find assessing more advanced classes a lot more problematic than the compulsory freshmen classes. Once you get to the classes where students have made a conscious choice to attend your English class rather than having it forced upon them assessment is more difficult. I find in these classes that EVERY student is trying hard and is really, really trying for the top grades. Then you have to decide whether to assess them for progress, or abilitity.

For example I had a writing class with a native speaker (an American) in it last semester. She was towards the top end of the class (though not the best, strangely) though I'd say she improved only a little over the semester. At the bottom end I had some students who were terrible writers who became reasonably competent. Their ability increased several times over. Who gets the A and who gets the C? The student who tried hard, and improved a lot, but is still at the bottom of the class? Or the student who started good, did nothing, and is still good? Obviously writing is different to oral communication, but the problems with assessing large groups of students remain the same.

I still don't know the answer to the question you posed in your OP. I generally grade on ability, as judged by written tests which include a listening segment, but allow a little room for improvement and effort. With my freshman English conversation classes my final exam includes a section where they answer (on paper) questions which they hear. The listening section is not listening comprehension, but more like a conversational assessment. Obviously they have a lot more time to 'respond' (when they write their answer) than they would in a real conversation, but I don't know of a better way to assess them without long interviews. In large classes this is still problematic though.

If anyone has 'the' answer to the OP I'd be glad to know the answer before the next semester starts =)

My apologies if some of the above is a little incoherent; a little rice wine has been drunk.
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yingwenlaoshi



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 3:49 am    Post subject: Re: Ideas on Teaching Large Classes Oral Communication Reply with quote

MA_TESOL wrote:
i will be teaching classes of University students; 30-55 a class. I am use to class sizes of 12 or less. How do you work with large groups, especially when it comes to assessment and grades


I figure the only way you could teach them is by lecturing and giving them assignments. Leave it up to them if they want to ask you questions or speak. Maybe have them make teams and give them projects.

Sounds like a lot of planning and extra work. I just hope for your sake that it's nowhere near 55 students. 30's bad enough.
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Cerriowen



Joined: 03 Jun 2006
Location: Pocheon

PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had to do this... well it was 25 people, not 35... but the principle holds...

Get a topic, then a list of relevant vocab they may not know. Spend 5 minutes and explain the new vocab words.

Break them in to smaller groups (max 6 people).

Make ONLY a few copies of your topic or article, to make them share. If you don't, then they just end up looking at their own papers and not talking.

Have them discuss the topic or problem or situation... what ever... amongst themselves. You can float around the classroom and listen in, answer questions etc.

Join the class together again, and spend 5-10 minutes at the end of class talking about the different things they mentioned in their small groups.

For ASSESSMENT... Each group gets it's own topic... then have them present their decision to the class. Each person has to talk for a minute or two and present part. The group gets a grade. It's more motivation to work, because if soemone is lazy, they'll mess it up for everyone.

Another idea is to do the same "group" thing, except during the group discussion pull each one asside individually and ask them questions to assess their level.
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Easter Clark



Joined: 18 Nov 2007
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MA TESOL--

When I was teaching uni students in the US, I had a similar problem: How to assess the spoken English of students in a semi-large class (I had a maximum class size of 18 ). Still I had them look at a series of communicative tasks, for example, discussing their opinions on current movies or asking about one another's' family. I told them I would assign them ONE task from the list, but they would not know until test day.

I designed a rubric, allocating points for fluency, accuracy, asking for opinions from group members, offering an opinion, staying on topic / bringing the group on topic, etc. I assigned students to groups of 4, then told them to choose a leader, whose job it was to keep the group on task.

I then had each group sign up for a block of 10 minutes. They came in and sat at a table with a tape recorder in the middle. I had them say their group number, names, and task number before beginning (which is necessary later on when you go to grade).

They could stop anytime they felt they had successfully performed the task, but they had a time limit. Of course later on you have to listen to the tape to determine their grade, but if you have them write their name / class number / etc on the score sheet and give it to you on test day, your paperwork is minimized.

I did this for several classes, twice a year and I heartily recommend this over individual interviews, or even taking marks while they are performing the task. I was also quite surprised by some of the language that came up, as I made myself practically invisible during the process.
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