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sailinthru
Joined: 02 Aug 2007
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 Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:28 pm Post subject: Korean contract, 1 year is not 12 months |
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I thought a one year contract meant twelve months pay, or 24 million won, with the 2 million won bonus. But I have learned, that even though my ARC expires a few days before the monthly semester ends, I have to work a few days beyond my ARC expiry date to make 2 million for the last month. So, perhaps, some might think this is obvious, you must work the hours to get the pay, but I thought otherwise.
My contract lacks a termination date, it has a begining date, but not an end date. Nor does it say I will be paid 24 million in total. An issue to be aware of and something to be included in future contracts.
The hogwan manager kept saying that staying a few extra days will cause no visa problem, but they never mentioned anything about extra pay. This is why. One year is not equal to twelve months. |
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The_Conservative
Joined: 15 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:39 pm Post subject: Re: Korean contract, 1 year is not 12 months |
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| sailinthru wrote: |
I thought a one year contract meant twelve months pay, or 24 million won, with the 2 million won bonus. But I have learned, that even though my ARC expires a few days before the monthly semester ends, I have to work a few days beyond my ARC expiry date to make 2 million for the last month. So, perhaps, some might think this is obvious, you must work the hours to get the pay, but I thought otherwise.
My contract lacks a termination date, it has a begining date, but not an end date. Nor does it say I will be paid 24 million in total. An issue to be aware of and something to be included in future contracts.
The hogwan manager kept saying that staying a few extra days will cause no visa problem, but they never mentioned anything about extra pay. This is why. One year is not equal to twelve months. |
Two things
NEVER NEVER work beyond your ARC expiry date. That is illegal, no matter what your boss says. Immigration will likely fine you...it's 100,000 won a day for each day you overstay.
And the second thing is that you get a bonus equivilent to the average of your last 3 months pay at the end.
So your total pay should be 26 million for the year not 24 million.
You are being ripped off AND told lies which will land you in trouble at Immigration when you try to leave. |
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SeoulShakin
Joined: 05 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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| If you must work beyond the date on your ARC, then you have to go to immigration, with your passport, card, and plane ticket out of the country to get an extension on the ARC. If you get the extension, you are fine until the new date, but you can't get the extension unless you have the plane ticket out. |
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spliff
Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand
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| Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:40 pm Post subject: Re: Korean contract, 1 year is not 12 months |
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| sailinthru wrote: |
I thought a one year contract meant twelve months pay, or 24 million won, with the 2 million won bonus. But I have learned, that even though my ARC expires a few days before the monthly semester ends, I have to work a few days beyond my ARC expiry date to make 2 million for the last month. So, perhaps, some might think this is obvious, you must work the hours to get the pay, but I thought otherwise.
My contract lacks a termination date, it has a begining date, but not an end date. Nor does it say I will be paid 24 million in total. An issue to be aware of and something to be included in future contracts.
The hogwan manager kept saying that staying a few extra days will cause no visa problem, but they never mentioned anything about extra pay. This is why. One year is not equal to twelve months. |
QUIT LISTENING TO THE LYING, THIEVING, DISHONEST HAGWEON OWNERS!
Look, your contract has a beginning date and it states that it's for one year. Immigration knows how to count one year. Look in your passport and scope out the visa. For example, if your entry into S. Korea on an E-2 visa was 1 March 2007, then the expiration date listed on the ARC will be 29 February 2008.
Your contract also states your montly income. Tell your lying, thieving, dishonest hagweon owner boss that since this is the last month, the Labor Board won't let him get away with firing you in the last month and you'll happily report him for withholding of salary and severance. |
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tired of LA
Joined: 06 Nov 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 6:11 am Post subject: Re: Korean contract, 1 year is not 12 months |
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| sailinthru wrote: |
I thought a one year contract meant twelve months pay, or 24 million won, with the 2 million won bonus. But I have learned, that even though my ARC expires a few days before the monthly semester ends, I have to work a few days beyond my ARC expiry date to make 2 million for the last month. So, perhaps, some might think this is obvious, you must work the hours to get the pay, but I thought otherwise.
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i'm not sure if i'm missing something, but it seems reasonable to me that you wouldn't get a full months pay if your contract ends during the middle of the month. when i started working, i didn't start at the beginning of a month, and was therefore prorated for the month. i'm assuming thats whats going to happen at the end of my contract. am i missing something here?
sailinthru, did you start in the middle of a month, and if so were you prorated for that month? |
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simIAN
Joined: 02 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 7:05 am Post subject: |
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| My last boss had me work the day of my E2 Visa expiration. He told me it would be fine and I would not have to pay any sort of penalty. Well at the airport I had to go though so much trouble and the lady was about to make me pay, but I somehow sweet talked my way out of the fine and managed to get that stamp on my E2 that let me out of the country. I was lucky! |
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polonius
Joined: 05 Jun 2004
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| Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 7:59 am Post subject: |
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| SeoulShakin wrote: |
| If you must work beyond the date on your ARC, then you have to go to immigration, with your passport, card, and plane ticket out of the country to get an extension on the ARC. If you get the extension, you are fine until the new date, but you can't get the extension unless you have the plane ticket out. |
If you go to immigration and show them the plane ticket, they will extend your stay in Korea. However, that doesn't mean that you are legally allowed to work beyond what was originally stated on your ARC. If you want to be legit about it, you need to bring an amendment of your contract, 30,000 won as well as some other paper work to immigration to extend your visa to allow you to work.
Really though, the odds are slim that an Immigration officer would show up within those couple days, and check your status. |
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GreenlightmeansGO
Joined: 11 Dec 2006
Location: Daegu
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| Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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A related question: I had heard that you are given a grace period to leave the country (if memory serves, this grace period was 2 weeks). Is this the case?
My visa expires 1 March, but I am planning on leaving on the 3rd. Will I have to go to immi or am I in the clear? |
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Kimchieluver
Joined: 02 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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A related question: I had heard that you are given a grace period to leave the country (if memory serves, this grace period was 2 weeks). Is this the case?
My visa expires 1 March, but I am planning on leaving on the 3rd. Will I have to go to immi or am I in the clear? |
you have to go to immi with the air fare ticket in hand. |
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Ut videam
Joined: 07 Dec 2007
Location: Pocheon-si, Gyeonggi-do
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| Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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| GreenlightmeansGO wrote: |
A related question: I had heard that you are given a grace period to leave the country (if memory serves, this grace period was 2 weeks). Is this the case?
My visa expires 1 March, but I am planning on leaving on the 3rd. Will I have to go to immi or am I in the clear? |
If you have your ticket (e-ticket receipt or itinerary in PDF, JPG, html, txt format), you can get this permission online and save yourself a trip to the Immigration office. The site is http://www.g4f.go.kr. After registering for an account at the site, go to E-APPLICATION -> File an application -> Temporary extension of stay for departure of registered foreigners. |
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sailinthru
Joined: 02 Aug 2007
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| Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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From tired of ROK to tired in LA. I started at the beginning of the month, in fact, three days early, for "training." No prorating here.
Interestingly, my boss never offers me a place to check that what he says is true. Everything is all "no problem".
I'll need to check my passport visa date. Yeah, even in Korea they know what one year is. Big IT hub they say etc. In the land of selectively enforced laws. |
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