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BS.Dos.



Joined: 29 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 4:16 pm    Post subject: Brits In Korea Reply with quote

Just wanted to guage any thoughts/experiences/comments etc from any Brits who might be currently working in Korea.

Are you generally isolated or is there a community of sorts out there?

How are you received by the locals/North American community?

Do any of your accents pose any problems, teaching or otherwise?

What's the beer/local football like?

Any regrets?
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SarcasmKills



Joined: 07 Apr 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since when did they allow Brits into Korea?

*sigh* There goes the neighbourhood.
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bobbyhanlon



Joined: 09 Nov 2003
Location: 서울

PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

there's not many brits here so i wouldn't say there was a community.. plenty of westerners in general though, but mate... you're coming to korea, try to make korean friends, not brits.
as far as your accent goes, it depends what accent you have. if you're a proper scouser, for example, then be prepared for nobody to understand what you're on about (hmm.. not much different to back home then Smile but if you tone the accent down a bit and speak slowly you'll be ok.
footy- there's lots of teams, but since i'm a lazy git, i wouldn't know that much about them.
beer- basically all korean beer is like carling (cheap, and not very good).
regrets? hm... staying as long as i did. if i could turn back the clock, i would have left after two years, when i was still having a great time here. anyway, just come over, and if you don't like it, you can always leave.
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BS.Dos.



Joined: 29 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@bobbyhanlon
you're coming to korea, try to make korean friends, not brits.

LOL You kidding? One of the reasons I'm want out of this country is to leave 99.9% of them behind.

No, I just wanted to get the consensus on how Brits are received over there really. I wasn't asking so I could align myself to an environment that resembles anything like Costa Del Seoul.
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bobbyhanlon



Joined: 09 Nov 2003
Location: 서울

PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

haha ok.. fair enough then! i'm going back home soon but in a way i'm dreading it.. the 'av it, are-you-lookin-at-mah-bird, got-50p-for-the-bus-mate-no?-well-i'll-fookin'-'av-you-then culture just gets me down..
as for how we're perceived in korea, i can tell you its pretty good.. there is still this strange notion here that we are a land of gentlemen. often i've had an angry-faced old geezer come up to me to ask 'are you american?' and when i tell them i'm english, they suddenly brighten up and say 'ahh.....gentleman! very good!' or something like that.. ridiculous but who am i to argue?
i'd say there's a small minority of expats who don't like us, particularly those from the us or canada. i wasn't aware of this before but apparently we all have crooked teeth and participate in football hooliganism, without exception.
all in all, its not bad though.
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SPINOZA



Joined: 10 Jun 2005
Location: $eoul

PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Just wanted to guage any thoughts/experiences/comments etc from any Brits who might be currently working in Korea.


I'm very happy here. I've never come across a Brit who takes the opposite view.

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Are you generally isolated or is there a community of sorts out there?


Are you going to Seoul? If so, Itaewon is foreigner town and is great for the fresh off plane newbie, but it's very bland and you'll soon tire of it in all likelihood. One's priority rapidly becomes chasing skirt.

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How are you received by the locals/North American community?


I've encountered anti-British vermin on Daves, but not in real life. One important thing to note however is that North American expats do not find you inherently fascinating because you're British, unlike the things we encounter on our visits to North America.

Koreans seem to think the Brits are wonderful. Similar to what Bobby said, when you say you're an English teacher from Britain, a Korean will be impressed....."aah, original English! Gentleman!"

I've also met countless Korean europhiles (England especially in many cases) and the view that British pronunciation is the best and more clear.

Fully exploit the gentleman myth.



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Do any of your accents pose any problems, teaching or otherwise?


Minimally. Koreans expect post-vocalic r and other features of North American English because they're more used to it, but it's not a problem.



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What's the beer/local football like?


Terrible in both cases. Time differences make it virtually impossible to watch Champions League games too, which is a blow for me.



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Any regrets?


Not coming sooner.
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shrews68



Joined: 01 Aug 2006

PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 2:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi i'm english and have been here 6 months now. i have had zero problems with koreans concerning my nationality and my american friends are spot on. if any thing the koreans like the fact that you are british because they think you are a gentlemen (strange i know). i live in a small town (85000) and i am the only englishman but as i have said all the yanks are sound. as for accent i can't say without knowing how strong it is, all i know is their are lots of strong american accents out here teaching.

the beer isn't all that bad, all lager and 4.5%, as the other bloke said it's a bit like carling.

i don't watch any local football (in seoul) but their is usually a saturday premier league game on the tv in the evening. as i write this i am just about to go back home to watch liverpool and arsenal k.o. local 9.45pm.
any regrets - no it's an experience and i get to save 13000 pounds. some people need the money here and others have the luck of rich parents and tend to moan a lot.

good luck to you
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BS.Dos.



Joined: 29 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 3:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RE: Accent

I wouldn't say that I have a strong accent, but as I've lived in the West Country all my life (Bristol for 34 and Cornwall for 3) I'm sure that to anyone else outside the area it must sound quite prominent.

Still, the general consensus seems to be that it'll pass regardless and I suspect I'll only sound like a neanderthal farmer after I've had a few Sherries!

One other thing, I would imagine that the learners are very much clued-up about all things American (Cutlure and so forth) but how aware are they of British life in general? Do they all still think that we ride around on Penny Farthings wearing cloth caps supporting ridiculous large and bushy mustaches ? I only ask as I've a few American friends who live in the mid-west who still think that's how we live.

Sorry if that's a rather outrageous example, but (hopefully) you get what I'm getting at.

@shrews68
i get to save 13000 pounds

Really? What, in the 6-months since you arrived or is that what you expect to save over your first year?
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anajupear



Joined: 16 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 2:24 pm    Post subject: Love the Brits Reply with quote

I'm an American girl from Michigan who's spent a few months in England and 5 years in Korea. I think only clueless idiots have issues with you. They're the same morons who think the US and Americans are the greatest and everyone else sucks. They shouldn't be given passports.

Many Koreans only want to learn American English, so you might encounter that a bit. I taught a biz English class in Seoul, and accidentally chose a textbook with British English. The tapes had only British accents, and it sent my students for a loop. They were very angry with me for not choosing an American textbook, and had a difficult time understanding the British accent and dealing with the spelling differences, and some word differences like lift instead of elevator. But I told them it was good for them to hear other accents and be exposed to British English, because not all native English speakers are Americans. Eventually they settled down and were fine.

In reality, most Koreans can't tell the difference in the accents, and won't know you're British until you tell them. I think my biz students' main problem wasn't the accent so much as how quickly they spoke on the tapes.
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BS.Dos.



Joined: 29 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@anajupear

That goes some way to alleviating some of my concerns.

Thanks.
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mrsquirrel



Joined: 13 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have problems just remind them that the actual chance of the students meeting and conversing with any other native speakers is slim. They are more likely to converse with another Asian speaking English. Then offer to speak in Singlish, Flipish, Indinsh, Thinglish or any other variety of English spoken around Asia.
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Cerebroden



Joined: 27 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

don't know of any americans that really have a problem with the brits.
Now if you were french.....

And I am now teaching a kid one on one who spent a year in singapore at an international school. His parents want him to lose his british accent.
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shrews68



Joined: 01 Aug 2006

PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the 13 grand is the amount i project, but it's pretty safe to say it because i have saved half that in 6 months and am not planning to do anything much different in the second half i my year here
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koala5



Joined: 21 Aug 2006

PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 7:47 pm    Post subject: just wonder Reply with quote

I just wonder what saving 13,000 pound will get you back home once you do go back home to the Queen's country. I really wonder how long it will take to purchase a house with that kind of money that is being saved? I gather the way you are going you will have the house in 20 years?

bye for now
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Scot-in-Ansan



Joined: 10 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 8:07 pm    Post subject: being scottish Reply with quote

Just say Scot-a-land-a-saram and confuse everyone. Even some Englishee speakers.

In my opinion(which of course is limited to personal experience), it was great to be outside of of Seoul when I arrived in Korea, I found it very easy to meet people. Go straight to Itaewon and you meet many many foreigners but,like another poster said, it could grow old, very quickly.

I think somewhere like Ansan, Suwon, Uijonbu etc is great for a newbie to Korea. In my opinion of course!

Being a Scot(and girl to boot) I had a great time. English? not so sure! kidding!!! It's all good!
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