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chris_J2
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cerulean808
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Yeah, awesome. Finally an Australian guy man enough to apologise. 
Only last week I was at a BBQ where this guy was telling me he traveled and worked in the Outback in the 1970's, and this farming family/community openly bragged about hunting 'Black Fellas', shooting them.
Long long way to go yet of course, but this indicates a change for the better. |
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happeningthang
Joined: 26 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, awesome. Finally an Australian guy man enough to apologise.
Only last week I was at a BBQ where this guy was telling me he traveled and worked in the Outback in the 1970's, and this farming family/community openly bragged about hunting 'Black Fellas', shooting them.
Long long way to go yet of course, but this indicates a change for the better. |
I find that very hard to believe. There was undoubtedly hordes of racist Australians back in the 70s, who wouldn't be adverse to bashing Aboriginals, but I seriously doubt they'd be shooting them. |
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Julius
Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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| cerulean808 wrote: |
Yeah, awesome. Finally an Australian guy man enough to apologise.
Only last week I was at a BBQ where this guy was telling me he traveled and worked in the Outback in the 1970's, and this farming family/community openly bragged about hunting 'Black Fellas', shooting them.
Long long way to go yet of course, but this indicates a change for the better. |
I find that very hard to believe. There was undoubtedly hordes of racist Australians back in the 70s, who wouldn't be adverse to bashing Aboriginals, but I seriously doubt they'd be shooting them. |
They did hunt them for sport. But not in the 1970's. More like 1800's.
The guys who were bragging were referring to their great grandparents. |
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chris_J2
Joined: 17 Apr 2006
Location: From Brisbane, Au.
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| Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 8:30 pm Post subject: Sorry |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_of_Indigenous_Australians
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_of_Indigenous_Australians#After_1930
There have been no massacres of indigenous Australians, since 1928. The link title above is misleading, as the 1932 Caledon Bay massacre, was of 5 Japanese, 2 Caucasians, & 1 policeman. There was no subsequent revenge attack on the Yolngu people. The matter was settled through the Courts, largely due to Donald Thomson.
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The Coniston massacre, which took place in 1928 on Coniston cattle station, Northern Territory, Australia, was the last known massacre of Indigenous Australians. People of the Warlpiri, Anmatyerre and Kaytetye groups were killed. The massacre occurred in revenge for the death of dingo hunter, Frederick Brooks, supposedly killed by Aborigines in August 1928 at a place now known as Yukurru, (also Brooks Soak).
Official records at the time stated that thirty-one people were killed. A member of the punitive party for the first few days and the then owner of Coniston station (Mr Randall Stafford) estimated that at least twice that number were killed. Some historians estimate that at least sixty Aboriginal men, women and children were killed; others estimate as many as 110 were killed. |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coniston_massacre
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1932-34 Caledon Bay crisis: In 1932, five Japanese poachers, two white men, and a policeman were killed by Yolngu people in retaliation for rapes. A "punitive expedition" from Darwin was proposed, just as had happened at the Coniston massacre four years earlier, but this was averted, and the matter was settled in the courts. This event is marked as a significant turning point in the history of the treatment of Aboriginal people." |
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| The Caledon bay crisis refers to a series of killings in Caledon Bay in the Northern Territory of Australia in 1932-1934. They threatened to create even deeper rifts between Indigenous Australians and non-Indigenous Australians, but, largely because of one man, it instead became a turning point towards reconciliation. |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Thomson |
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Tony_Balony
Joined: 12 Apr 2007
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| Massacres are necessary for the formation of multicultural nations which are morally superior to nativist xenophobic nations. Its ok to steal from people as long as you have good intentions. Everything that was bad about the forceful appropriations wre made good by dividing the booty up to a progressive society. Comrade Lenin will concur. |
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003
Location: I walk along the avenue
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| Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:18 am Post subject: |
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| Julius wrote: |
| happeningthang wrote: |
| cerulean808 wrote: |
Yeah, awesome. Finally an Australian guy man enough to apologise.
Only last week I was at a BBQ where this guy was telling me he traveled and worked in the Outback in the 1970's, and this farming family/community openly bragged about hunting 'Black Fellas', shooting them.
Long long way to go yet of course, but this indicates a change for the better. |
I find that very hard to believe. There was undoubtedly hordes of racist Australians back in the 70s, who wouldn't be adverse to bashing Aboriginals, but I seriously doubt they'd be shooting them. |
They did hunt them for sport. But not in the 1970's. More like 1800's.
The guys who were bragging were referring to their great grandparents. |
It would seem to be a surprisingly common idea that white Australians hunt aborigines. My cousin took a trip to Australia with his wife, and he told me that in the outback he saw a sign warning that wandering aborigines would be shot. Of course I figured that the sign, if indeed it existed at all, was just a racist joke, but he insisted that it was real. |
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happeningthang
Joined: 26 Apr 2003
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It would seem to be a surprisingly common idea that white Australians hunt aborigines. My cousin took a trip to Australia with his wife, and he told me that in the outback he saw a sign warning that wandering aborigines would be shot. Of course I figured that the sign, if indeed it existed at all, was just a racist joke, but he insisted that it was real. |
I don't know ANY people in Australia who would accept that as a common idea.
Admittedly the outback is a big place, and I've only spent time living and working in pieces of it, but I've never heard of anything like this.
It's simply not accepted by anyone, except the most bitter, miserable, hard bitten racist die-hards, who would be all mouth anyway, because shooting anyone, black or white, would see them in jail. |
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003
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On the other hand wrote:
It would seem to be a surprisingly common idea that white Australians hunt aborigines. My cousin took a trip to Australia with his wife, and he told me that in the outback he saw a sign warning that wandering aborigines would be shot. Of course I figured that the sign, if indeed it existed at all, was just a racist joke, but he insisted that it was real.
I don't know ANY people in Australia who would accept that as a common idea.
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I didn't mean that it was accepted by Australians themselves. And I wasn't saying that people in Australia would want it to be true.
Let me rephrase:
There seems to be an urban legend floating about that some people in Australia hunt aborigines. I've read it on Dave's, and I've heard it repeated by people I know. |
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chris_J2
Joined: 17 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 2:49 pm Post subject: Sorry |
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The 'urban legend' is probably akin to carnivorous 'dropbears'. Officially, the last known massacre of indigenous Australians was in 1928, which is 80 years ago.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drop_bear |
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Czarjorge
Joined: 01 May 2007
Location: I now have the same moustache, and it is glorious.
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| Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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| The Aussie government should force some of the whities to take up the songs that maintain reality. |
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