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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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 Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 7:46 pm Post subject: Costs of Wars as a % of GDP |
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Kuros
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| Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Mexican-American War seems to have the best cost-benefit ratio (discounting the Revolution) |
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bacasper
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| Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Really? Did they calculate the cost of lives lost at the $6.73 the chemicals from a corpse will get you? |
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Kuros
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| Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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| bacasper wrote: |
| Really? Did they calculate the cost of lives lost at the $6.73 the chemicals from a corpse will get you? |
I'm sure the figures include 'blood money' paid. |
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Gopher
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| Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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| The last two war figures have something to contribute to the doomed-empire/imperial-overreach argument. |
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Justin Hale
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It doesn't surprise me. If I remember correctly, the cost of the Iraq war is 9 billion per month (108,000,000,000 per year), whereas US GDP is 13 million million (13 trillion) per year, making the war 0.8% of US annual GDP.
Strangely enough, it's a much more important, yet likely cheaper, war than Vietnam. Vietnam was a stupid war, yet the purpose of the Iraq war is to provoke war between Sunnis and Shiites rather than attempting to defeat a single enemy that didn't even need to be defeated from a US perspective. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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| Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 3:41 am Post subject: |
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| If it was to provoke war between the two sides then why is the US trying to have an Iraq govt include members from all groups? |
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Justin Hale
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| Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 3:53 am Post subject: |
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| If it was to provoke war between the two sides then why is the US trying to have an Iraq govt include members from all groups? |
War, immense war, between Muslims must take place first. The Iraqi govt post-Saddam is half-hearted, at best. Ask yourself: why doesn't the US simply occupy the country, which it is more than capable of doing? The reason is obvious: the purpose of the conflict is to get Muslims to kill each other. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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| Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 4:03 am Post subject: |
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Actually the reason was to pressure Saudi Arabia and others to crush Al Qaeda within their own nations. That is why the US wants military bases in Iraq
The other reason was to cause despair and anger. The US wanted to destroy
the happiness of those who enjoyed 9-11. The US wanted to to something that would be hurtful to them. Kind of a revenge against the mideast for 9-11. |
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Justin Hale
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| Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 4:13 am Post subject: |
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
Actually the reason was to pressure Saudi Arabia and others to crush Al Qaeda within their own nations. That is why the US wants military bases in Iraq
The other reason was to cause despair and anger. The US wanted to destroy
the happiness of those who enjoyed 9-11. The US wanted to to something that would be hurtful to them. Kind of a revenge against the mideast for 9-11. |
Joo, buddy, the reason for the Iraq war is for Muslims to die. There is absolutely no other reason - oil included - for the endeavor. I'm generally opposed to US conservatism, but the strategy in Iraq - getting your enemies to kill themselves - is the most ingenious war policy in the history of our species and that is why I support Mr Bush, as should all. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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| Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 4:38 am Post subject: |
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| IF the US wanted a civil war the US would withdraw from Iraq. |
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Kuros
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| Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 7:35 am Post subject: |
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| Justin Hale wrote: |
| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| If it was to provoke war between the two sides then why is the US trying to have an Iraq govt include members from all groups? |
War, immense war, between Muslims must take place first. The Iraqi govt post-Saddam is half-hearted, at best. Ask yourself: why doesn't the US simply occupy the country, which it is more than capable of doing? The reason is obvious: the purpose of the conflict is to get Muslims to kill each other. |
The US doesn't have the 300,000 troops needed, nor the 10% of the budget required to supply those troops. Perhaps the US could scrounge up another 100,000 for a year or two, but re-enlistments are down.
No, it is not accurate to say the US is more than capable of simply occupying the country. It might be possible in the short-term but it would stretch the military. |
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OneWayTraffic
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| Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Kuros wrote: |
| Justin Hale wrote: |
| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| If it was to provoke war between the two sides then why is the US trying to have an Iraq govt include members from all groups? |
War, immense war, between Muslims must take place first. The Iraqi govt post-Saddam is half-hearted, at best. Ask yourself: why doesn't the US simply occupy the country, which it is more than capable of doing? The reason is obvious: the purpose of the conflict is to get Muslims to kill each other. |
The US doesn't have the 300,000 troops needed, nor the 10% of the budget required to supply those troops. Perhaps the US could scrounge up another 100,000 for a year or two, but re-enlistments are down.
No, it is not accurate to say the US is more than capable of simply occupying the country. It might be possible in the short-term but it would stretch the military. |
The USA is quite capable of fully occupying Iraq. World War II showed what the US can do with total mobilization. The problem is that the financial and more importantly, political costs would practically destroy any government who tried drafting in civilians for the job. |
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Justin Hale
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| Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| IF the US wanted a civil war the US would withdraw from Iraq. |
Keeping up appearances. |
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