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Question for Canadians who are first time E2 applicants

 
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littlemisssmiles



Joined: 27 Dec 2007

PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 2:12 pm    Post subject: Question for Canadians who are first time E2 applicants Reply with quote

I have everything ready except for the Criminal Record Check. I have the original copy, stamped and signed by the RCMP, but the consulate would not accept it. I tried to have it notarized, but all of the Notary Public offices that I contacted will not make any marks on the offical document. (Apparently, if they write on it, it is no longer legal). Also they cannot attest that it is a legal document because they did not witness it being signed. All they could do was photocopy it and notarize the copy, but the consulate would not accept this either. Then, they told me I would not have to get it notarized if it was sealed in an envelope, but the RCMP will not do this because of the rules from the CPIC (Canadian Police Information Centre). I am all out of options Sad How has everyone else got this done?

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Draz



Joined: 27 Jun 2007
Location: Land of Morning Clam

PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What a nightmare. I've been worried about this since I heard of the notary requirement for CRC. Are you going through a recruiter? what does the school say about it?
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littlemisssmiles



Joined: 27 Dec 2007

PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am going through Global Schools. Their main office is in Vancouver, and they franchise out their program to schools in Korea. I have contacted both the director in Vancouver, and the one at the school in Korea, but no one really seems to know what is going on with the new regulations yet.
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indigo777



Joined: 04 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 2:58 pm    Post subject: Question for Canadians Reply with quote

I'm glad you posted that information. I'm on an E2 with a CRC completed by the RCMP but when I came over in September it did not have to be notarized.
I was planning on getting another while at home on holidays but if a notary will not sign it the only option would be to have it sent by the RCMP directly to the Korean Consulate, which the police are telling you they cannot do. CPIC information is private unless it is another police agency.
What if you give the RCMP a Letter of Release of Information, that would give them permission to share the info with the Korean Consulate.
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bombenhagen



Joined: 21 Jun 2006
Location: NL

PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm so happy I resigned and extended on Dec 4, 2007 so I don't have to deal with this for another year. Call the embassy and tell them what the problem is. If you don't like the answer, call back the next day and hope for something different. That is what our school is telling a new teacher to do. Noone knows whats going on. What about just sending the CRC to them as is?
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littlemisssmiles



Joined: 27 Dec 2007

PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Indigo - Even with a letter of permission they won't do it

Bombenhagen - I tried giving it to them in person but they just handed it back to me. (Both the original and notarized copy). I don't know if it would be any different if I mailed it...

Thanks for the suggestions!
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blurgalurgalurga



Joined: 18 Oct 2007

PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What a nightmare!

Thanks for keeping us posted about the Canadian notary stuff. You're on the front lines of this new system, and many of us will benefit from your tales of woe. Good luck getting it all done--and hang in there, eh? Probably soon, something will snap, and things will pop back into a slightly more sensible position.
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indigo777



Joined: 04 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 1:14 am    Post subject: Canadians Reply with quote

Then I would make a copy ,get it notarized and send that to the consulate in Vancouver. If they want a big ,red stamp I would do it that way.
Some countries like the big,red stamps because it makes the document look official.
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Bafsy



Joined: 27 Nov 2007
Location: Sanbon

PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm going through the same issue but I called the Consulate in Toronto today and they said they'd accept the notarized copy with the original. So..... I'm just going to send the documents and hope for the best.
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Ut videam



Joined: 07 Dec 2007
Location: Pocheon-si, Gyeonggi-do

PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 12:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Question for Canadians who are first time E2 applicants Reply with quote

littlemisssmiles wrote:
I have everything ready except for the Criminal Record Check. I have the original copy, stamped and signed by the RCMP, but the consulate would not accept it. I tried to have it notarized, but all of the Notary Public offices that I contacted will not make any marks on the offical document. (Apparently, if they write on it, it is no longer legal). Also they cannot attest that it is a legal document because they did not witness it being signed. All they could do was photocopy it and notarize the copy, but the consulate would not accept this either. Then, they told me I would not have to get it notarized if it was sealed in an envelope, but the RCMP will not do this because of the rules from the CPIC (Canadian Police Information Centre). I am all out of options Sad How has everyone else got this done?

If it is stamped and signed by the RCMP, perhaps you can submit it to the Authentication section of Foreign Affairs and International Trade Canada. That may help you get it accepted by the Korean Embassy/Consulate.

http://www.dfait-maeci.gc.ca/common/authentication_documents-en.asp

Hope this helps!
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Jamez



Joined: 26 Sep 2007
Location: Seoul-si

PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got mine notarized, which just meant having a photocopy of the CBC stamped and sealed. Then I had to take it to the Toronto embassy so they could put a stamp on it for 2 bucks. This was fine for me and it was what I was told to do by the recruiter.

Good luck!
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bobbybigfoot



Joined: 05 May 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 5:32 am    Post subject: ugh! Reply with quote

I have been cringing ever since I read about this government's knee jerk reaction to that creep pedophile.

My contract doesn't end for another 4 months and I have asked my school what exactly I need if I want to extend or renew. I'm waiting for them to get back to me.

I've heard that I need to get fingerprints done in Korea, mail them to the RCMP then wait up to 4 months. But is this the case for a VISA renewal (1 year) or extension? Could it really take that long?

I wonder if I'm not better off going home at the end of my contract, having a visit, and applying in person (living in Ottawa gives me the luxury of having consolates and RCMP office nearby).
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con_def



Joined: 21 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will be starting with EPIK March 1 2008. I was hired thru ATC Inc. ( Woongjin ThinkBig). I was initially asked for a simple Criminal Check. This took 2 minutes at the Police Station. Then in December 2007, I was asked for a Police Check for working with the Vulnerable Sector. This took 8 weeks, I just received it in the mail last week.

My recruiter never requested that any of these documents be notarized. I wonder why there are inconsistencies.
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jaa



Joined: 21 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 12:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Question for Canadians who are first time E2 applicants Reply with quote

littlemisssmiles wrote:
I have everything ready except for the Criminal Record Check. I have the original copy, stamped and signed by the RCMP, but the consulate would not accept it. I tried to have it notarized, but all of the Notary Public offices that I contacted will not make any marks on the offical document. (Apparently, if they write on it, it is no longer legal). Also they cannot attest that it is a legal document because they did not witness it being signed. All they could do was photocopy it and notarize the copy, but the consulate would not accept this either. Then, they told me I would not have to get it notarized if it was sealed in an envelope, but the RCMP will not do this because of the rules from the CPIC (Canadian Police Information Centre). I am all out of options Sad How has everyone else got this done?


I am from British Columbia and I ran into similar problems -- but came up with a simple solution. I believe that the RCMP told you that they could not put your Criminal Record Check in a sealed envelope because legally you have to see it once it is completed... All I did was take a quick look at mine and then asked the receptionist at the RCMP office to put it in a regular envelope and put their stamp over the flap once it was sealed. She simply stamped it with the office stamp which had the name of the office and address over the flap, and I sent it away to the Korean Consulate in Vancouver ... the consulate accepted it and was returned to me after only 5 days.
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