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Having a Pontiac Firebird shipped by sea U.S. to Korea? How?

 
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captain kirk



Joined: 29 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 3:51 am    Post subject: Having a Pontiac Firebird shipped by sea U.S. to Korea? How? Reply with quote

I know a Korean who just asked me this question. He wants to buy a Pontiac Firebird and have it shipped over.

They are really expensive here in Korea, if available. He has Pontiac Firebird mania. He surfs Ebay and sees delicious cars. He wants one. How can he get it to Korea?

He asks;
What is the cost?
Would it be put in a large container?
Ports of departure on the U.S. West Coast?
Taxes?

I don't suppose anyone knows? Answers would greatly satisfy his muscle car love longing.
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normalcyispasse



Joined: 27 Oct 2006
Location: Yeosu until the end of February WOOOOOOOO

PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 3:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A buddy of mine in the military told me that some of the officers have their cars shipped over here (the .MIL picks up the tab). The invoices generally run $8000-10,000, if I recall correctly. I'm not sure what Korean import duties are on an American car, however, but you can probably get a rough answer to that question yourself by counting how many American cars you've seen on the streets in Korea.

(My answer to that question: In 2.5 years I have seen exactly 4 American 4-wheeled automobiles. There's one red V6 4th-gen Firebird I've seen here in Yeosu, one Chrysler 300C I saw in Suncheon, and a Ford Focus I saw in Seoul one day. I've also seen a Dodge Dakota here.)
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The Grumpy Senator



Joined: 13 Jan 2008
Location: Up and down the 6 line

PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 4:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see those huge Chevy conversion vans all the time. No idea why, they have not been popular for years back home.

There is a huge tariff on importing foreign cars. The FTA between US and Korea is running into major snags over this issue. I would assume that the import tariff for a Korean company selling foreign cars would be less than a Korean individual importing a car he bought overseas. The companies would never sell anything if not.

Either way, it has to be expensive.
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itaewonguy



Joined: 25 Mar 2003

PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 4:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

shipping wll run you about 4grand

is the car new? or second hand?

new car run about 30% of the value in taxes and juties..

second hand car go by blue book and you are looking at about 30% also
need to pay emission tests and safety test. they run about 2mill each

put it this way,..

you buy a car for 10 grand us off Ebay.. landed cleared it will cost you 20grand!
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NightSky



Joined: 19 Apr 2005

PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 4:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

normalcyispasse wrote:
A buddy of mine in the military told me that some of the officers have their cars shipped over here (the .MIL picks up the tab). The invoices generally run $8000-10,000, if I recall correctly. I'm not sure what Korean import duties are on an American car, however, but you can probably get a rough answer to that question yourself by counting how many American cars you've seen on the streets in Korea.

(My answer to that question: In 2.5 years I have seen exactly 4 American 4-wheeled automobiles. There's one red V6 4th-gen Firebird I've seen here in Yeosu, one Chrysler 300C I saw in Suncheon, and a Ford Focus I saw in Seoul one day. I've also seen a Dodge Dakota here.)


Really? I've seen tons of foreign/Western vehicles here, and I don't even live in Seoul where I must imagine they are more commonly spotted.
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captain kirk



Joined: 29 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 4:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think he said Pontiac Firebirds ceased to be made in the year 2000. So yes, the car would be used. The ones he was looking at are 13 to 17 thousand dollars. He already has a Pontiac Firebird.

Thanks for the info. This guy repairs computers and just set up the internet connection in my house. His friend/apprentice has Honda CBR900 mania. I have Honda xr650L mania. After they hooked up the internet they showed me youtube clips of revving engines and smoking tires.

He thinks these Firebirds are a work of art so he may well pay to have it sent over. Back home we're accustomed to muscle cars and they still blow people's minds. Over here add fuel to the fire with their RARITY.


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caniff



Joined: 03 Feb 2004
Location: All over the map

PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 4:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Grumpy Senator wrote:
I see those huge Chevy conversion vans all the time. No idea why, they have not been popular for years back home.



Those are for singing groups to travel around in. Usually boy bands. Seriously.
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 4:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

US military personnel authorized to have their personally owned vehicles (POV) transported to Korea do not have to pay for shipping or customs duties. There are no customs duties levied on the vehicle. There are certain other restrictions, though. After a certain number of years, the vehicle may be sold onto the Korean economy; however, the purchaser must pay the customs duties that would have been in effect had he brought the vehicle in on the day it really entered Korea. Of course, he'll have to ensure the vehicle meets Korean, as opposed to American, safety requirements.

For a regular ol' civilian, not only will he have to pay to have the thing shipped over, he'll also have to pay the customs duties on the vehicle and bring it up to snuff regarding safety requirements.
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normalcyispasse



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 4:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

captain kirk wrote:
I think he said Pontiac Firebirds ceased to be made in the year 2000. So yes, the car would be used..


The F-body was effectively discontinued in 2002 by the closure of the St. Therese plant, where the Camaro and Firebird were manufactured. While there are definite plans to revive the F-platform chassis in the form of the Camaro (as in the Transformers movie), I don't believe there are plans to bring back the Firebird nameplate as it shared all the same running gear with the Chevy car, and profit margins were smaller with only the body/trim kits to differentiate.

Now, I've always loved the F-bodies. That said, I'd imagine American muscle cars occupy a very rare niche here in Korea. I know how hard it is to get parts for my Japanese motorcycles; wouldn't it be even harder to find parts and competent mechanics for an American go-fast rod?
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Night Ranger



Joined: 17 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 5:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

normalcyispasse wrote:
captain kirk wrote:
I think he said Pontiac Firebirds ceased to be made in the year 2000. So yes, the car would be used..


The F-body was effectively discontinued in 2002 by the closure of the St. Therese plant, where the Camaro and Firebird were manufactured. While there are definite plans to revive the F-platform chassis in the form of the Camaro (as in the Transformers movie), I don't believe there are plans to bring back the Firebird nameplate as it shared all the same running gear with the Chevy car, and profit margins were smaller with only the body/trim kits to differentiate.

Now, I've always loved the F-bodies. That said, I'd imagine American muscle cars occupy a very rare niche here in Korea. I know how hard it is to get parts for my Japanese motorcycles; wouldn't it be even harder to find parts and competent mechanics for an American go-fast rod?


It's interesting that you know that the firebird/camaro platform was an F body. Hell.....I've run into a lot of whities here that can't even drive a car. It's nice to see someone know their cars. I used to work at a GM dealership (cadillac/oldsmobile) back in the day so that brings up some memories...good on you man.
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