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Zoot

Joined: 12 Jul 2005 Location: Bundang
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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 3:36 am Post subject: Orphanage Volunteering |
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Has anyone here done any volunteering in an orphanage?
What was your experience like? What did you do? Were there many expectations? How were the kids?
I'm curious about it. Let me know what you've got. |
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joeyjoejoe
Joined: 24 Sep 2006
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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 4:11 am Post subject: |
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last i knew, volunteering on an e2 visa was illegal. |
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Zoot

Joined: 12 Jul 2005 Location: Bundang
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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 6:11 am Post subject: |
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Really? I guess my contract says teaching off property is illegal but took it to mean teaching somewhere else and getting paid.
Where do we draw the line at volunteering? Is language exchange illegal, then?
Where did you learn that volunteering on an E2 is illegal? Where can I find out for sure? |
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Smee

Joined: 24 Dec 2004 Location: Jeollanam-do
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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 4:18 am Post subject: |
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Biiiiiiiiiiiig bump.
Okay, so I've read that volunteering on an E2 is illegal, and I think there was a big stink in the newspaper about it. I'm curious about what one has to do to make it legal.
Permission from current employer?
Registration with immigration?
I saw Jizzo posted this link in another thread, which talks about how to do activities beyond the scope of the visa: http://www.immigration.go.kr/HP/IMM80/imm_04/imm_0404/sm9.jsp
But I'm just looking for a few concrete answers and procedures. Thanks. |
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nobbyken

Joined: 07 Jun 2006 Location: Yongin ^^
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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 4:52 am Post subject: |
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Sorry OP,
From the title, I thought you had a big argument with your parents! |
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ttompatz

Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 5:50 am Post subject: |
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Smee wrote: |
Biiiiiiiiiiiig bump.
Okay, so I've read that volunteering on an E2 is illegal, and I think there was a big stink in the newspaper about it. I'm curious about what one has to do to make it legal.
Permission from current employer?
Registration with immigration?
I saw Jizzo posted this link in another thread, which talks about how to do activities beyond the scope of the visa: http://www.immigration.go.kr/HP/IMM80/imm_04/imm_0404/sm9.jsp
But I'm just looking for a few concrete answers and procedures. Thanks. |
You can do it legally BUT you need the blessing of the immigration office.
To do that you will do the following.
You need:
=permission from your employer,
=an invitation from the orphanage stating:
- that you are a volunteer,
- when you will be expected to work
- your duties,
=your ARC,
=your passport,
=a copy of the orphanage's business registration,
=an application
=and 60k won.
Then make the trip to immigration and get the activity added to your ARC as an addition to activities NOT covered under your status of sojourn.
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Bibbitybop

Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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Some waygook friends were volunteering in Seoul last year at an orphanage. The administration asked them to stop coming for no reason at all. Probably because they all have AIDS and don't smell of kimchi. |
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boyne11

Joined: 08 Jul 2007
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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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Bibbitybop wrote: |
Some waygook friends were volunteering in Seoul last year at an orphanage. The administration asked them to stop coming for no reason at all. Probably because they all have AIDS and don't smell of kimchi. |
Yeah, that and they probably didn't want too much outside attention because they are doing something illegal like misappropriation of orphanage funds.  |
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AylaZ
Joined: 30 Jan 2007
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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 4:48 pm Post subject: how sad |
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man how sad is that. needing permission to go to an orphange. Needing to ask to do something out of the goodness of your heart, wot bollucks.
My Korean friend in Cheongju has a friend who runs an orphanage. I plan on going soon to take loads of stuff b4 I leave Korea. |
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Yu_Bum_suk

Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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Immigration officers are not going to work unpaid overtime on a Sunday so that they can get on the six o'clock news for busting an orphanage on such ridiculous grounds. As a very well educated Korean friend told me, go help out, don't worry about it, and thanks a lot for doing this service for less fortunate Koreans. You're not making fun of Korea at a venue that charged admission and is selling alcohol without a license, and legally it's too grey an area for authorities to attempt anything that would make them look so assinine.
If you are going to do volunteer work at an orphanage try to work in or set up a volunteer programme at an orphanage that doesn't have highly transient full-time staff, few if any of whom have any knowledge of English. This combined with highly transient waygook volunteers can make for quite a bit of difficulty if you're the only permanent, reliable volunteer. |
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boyne11

Joined: 08 Jul 2007
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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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Yu_Bum_suk wrote: |
Immigration officers are not going to work unpaid overtime on a Sunday so that they can get on the six o'clock news for busting an orphanage on such ridiculous grounds. As a very well educated Korean friend told me, go help out, don't worry about it, and thanks a lot for doing this service for less fortunate Koreans. You're not making fun of Korea at a venue that charged admission and is selling alcohol without a license, and legally it's too grey an area for authorities to attempt anything that would make them look so assinine.
If you are going to do volunteer work at an orphanage try to work in or set up a volunteer programme at an orphanage that doesn't have highly transient full-time staff, few if any of whom have any knowledge of English. This combined with highly transient waygook volunteers can make for quite a bit of difficulty if you're the only permanent, reliable volunteer. |
Really? You'd be surprise how stupid immigration jackasses can be. I got this from another forum asking for help due to immigration stupidity:
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I need advice. I took a job in Korea in April and upon signing the contract, I was told that I would be working in two locations, and that it was "legal and I had no reason to worry." Obviously, it isn't. I put in my notice at the end of June and cited this as the major reason that I was quitting. The director has not co-operated and in a final attempt to secure a release letter or a waiver from immigration, I reported this fact. Now immigration wants to fine ME even though I have come forward voluntarily and have blown the whistle on the illegal situation. Where is the incentive to turn in bad directors when they punish the person who was forced into the illegal situation? Are there any avenues I should explore to get out of being punished or at least minimize my punishment? |
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The_Conservative
Joined: 15 Mar 2007
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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 10:41 pm Post subject: Re: how sad |
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AylaZ wrote: |
man how sad is that. needing permission to go to an orphange. Needing to ask to do something out of the goodness of your heart, wot bollucks.
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I would think that if a foreign resident on a temporary visa in the West tried to work at an orphanage or the equivelent he would also need permission. He would also be subject to background checks and probably a blood test as well. In most places these days doing something out of the "goodness of your heart" just isn't good enough. |
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koon_taung_daeng

Joined: 28 Jan 2007 Location: south korea
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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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don't volunteer, maybe then immigration will get off their asses and change the law |
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Bingo
Joined: 22 Jun 2006
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Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 12:04 am Post subject: |
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Korea needs to wise up. 'Volunteering' has a thousand faces and cannot be regulated by the government: They need to also think up a Korean word for 'consistency'. Would it be illegal if;
I tutored my American friend's kid for money?
I tutored my American friend's kid for free.
I tutored my Korean friend's kid for free.
I tutored my boss' kid for free.
I spent my Saturdasy picking up trash in Seoul.
I spent my Saturday's handing out Scientology literature in Seoul.
I spent my evenings helping drunk as a skunkKoreans find their way home.
I spent my Saturdays handing out leaflets about how wonderful Korea is.
Probably depends on the ajoshi, and how bad his hangover is, at the local immigration office. |
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Pak Yu Man

Joined: 02 Jun 2005 Location: The Ida galaxy
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Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 12:50 am Post subject: |
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Bingo wrote: |
I spent my Saturday's handing out Scientology literature in Seoul.
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You should be finrd, deported and beat up for doing that. No matter what city or immigration laws  |
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