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brento1138
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Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 6:14 pm Post subject: American students start bringing guns to school... |
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SALT LAKE CITY, Utah (CNN) -- The senior at the University of Utah gets dressed and then decides which gun is easiest to conceal under his clothes.
If he's wearing a T-shirt, he'll take a smaller, low-profile gun to class. If he's wearing a coat, he may carry a different weapon, he said.
He started carrying a gun to class after the massacre at Virginia Tech, but the student says he's not part of the problem of campus shootings and could instead be part of a solution.
Nick, who asked not to be fully identified so his fellow students wouldn't know he carried a gun, says he has had a concealed weapons permit for more than three years. But it was Seung-Hui Cho's murderous campus rampage that made him take a gun to class. |
So, I guess America can be proud that it is the only country where shootouts amongst students will be as normal as trading notes. Barbaric gun laws live on! Go America! Freedom! Woo !  |
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caniff
Joined: 03 Feb 2004 Location: All over the map
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Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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What do you wanna do? Close the barn doors after the horses are already out? |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 6:39 am Post subject: |
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If you're going to make snide comments about the country, perhaps you should (a) read the entire article first, and then (b) provide a link to it so others could see if your comments had that much pertinence to the issue.
And you might also want to remember that each state in the US passes its own gun laws. There are certain federal prohibitions but, for the most part, gun possession is an issue for state legislation. |
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blaseblasphemener
Joined: 01 Jun 2006 Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 6:41 am Post subject: |
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CentralCali wrote: |
If you're going to make snide comments about the country, perhaps you should (a) read the entire article first, and then (b) provide a link to it so others could see if your comments had that much pertinence to the issue.
And you might also want to remember that each state in the US passes its own gun laws. There are certain federal prohibitions but, for the most part, gun possession is an issue for state legislation. |
Gun possession or carrying a concealed weapon? Doesn't the Constitution guarantee the right to bear arms? |
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nicholas_chiasson

Joined: 14 Jun 2007 Location: Samcheok
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 7:15 am Post subject: |
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this thread title is not accurate
-bringing guns to school---not new
I knew a guy who said in deer season all the kids had shotguns and slugs in their cars(16,17 year olds drive in the US) and went out hunting after class. This was in the 1960's though, in upstate PA. But they never shot anybody. Quite clearly shooting people because you're ticked is a problem in modern culture, not having guns. |
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Czarjorge

Joined: 01 May 2007 Location: I now have the same moustache, and it is glorious.
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 7:43 am Post subject: |
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The small town I went to grade school in (I moved away for jr. high and high school) actually had a hunting class for Juniors and Seniors. It was taken in lieu of gym. My uncle taught the class until 2002. They had rifles in the school building. Small towns are crazy. |
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W.T.Carl
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 8:06 am Post subject: |
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I live in one of those "small towns". Crazy is not the word I would use, more like safe, polite and civilized. Most of my friends, cousins got their first firearms at age 12, as did I. Up until recently, you rarely locked your doors. And the last murder was about 20 years ago when a guy STABBED another guy who he caught doing his wife. An armed society is a polite society. |
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mistermasan
Joined: 20 Sep 2007 Location: 10+ yrs on Dave's ESL cafe
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 9:35 am Post subject: |
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golly, my religious run high school had a rifle range next to the rec room. kids shooting guns pretty much nonstop since 1924. never had a problem.
AMDG |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 10:53 am Post subject: |
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Doesn't the Constitution guarantee the right to bear arms? |
It guarantees an armed state militia.
It was perfectly Constitutional for Wyatt Earp to post signs on the edge of Dodge City requiring all cowboys to drop their 6 shooters off at the cop shop while in town.
Unfortunately, it is true that American civil culture is rather coarse and violence-prone, where all too many people confuse manhood with violence. Kind of an 1888 Tombstone, Arizona mind-set. Happiness is a warm gun, indeed. |
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W.T.Carl
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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It says nothing about a "state militia". It says "militia". Militia: Any male citizen over the age of 16 with a firearm. Look it up. |
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Gopher

Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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The Constitution recognizes the right to bear arms. It remains a disputed issue in American politics, however.
This notwithstanding, each state passes its own laws re: concealed weapons. Like so many others on the far left, OP shows a disdain for a state's legal, legislative choices when they clash with his dogma about how the world should be and how its people should vote and act. |
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cbclark4

Joined: 20 Aug 2006 Location: Masan
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Gopher

Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 12:52 am Post subject: |
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Plagiarized? OP presents the story as an excerpt from CNN. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 1:49 am Post subject: |
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Yes, I'm sure it says somewhere that any 16-year old with a gun fits under the definition of a 'well-regulated militia'. Perhaps in Charlton Heston's wetdreams.
But that's OK, WT. If you need a gun to take on the 9-year olds at the mall, that's your business. |
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nicholas_chiasson

Joined: 14 Jun 2007 Location: Samcheok
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Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 2:38 am Post subject: |
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-for the record Finland has pretty easy gun(ok not handguns but..) access, and they just had their first school shooting. When will people realize bullying and mental torture of kids is WORSE than it was 20 years ago? Its not the guns, its the hyper social competition of jocks vs. nerds. Call a kid gay...and YOU get suspended. Call a kid a 'loser nerd who plays magic the gathering' and nothing happens to you. Obviously our 'compassionate society' is driving a element to desperation. |
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