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[bassexpander]

http://edition.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2007/08/07/sot.newt.gingrich.cnn

[Justin Hale]

Oh man, that was beautiful.

[bassexpander]

Newt is a guy that people really can grow to hate, but he has a gift for direct speech. He says things that few have the guts to say yet everyone knows is the truth.

My favorite part was near the end. Nobody knows just how far the American people are going to be willing to go to bend civil liberties until after we lose a city.

That's very true.

[Justin Hale]

My favorite bit was when he made the case for an immediate nuclear strike on Tehran. Not doing so will prove to be a mistake of the Bush govt in my opinion. And of course, he's absolutely correct that we simply arent making enough noise about the threat posed to civilization by extremist religious states.

[Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee]

Why doesn't anyone on the of the anti war movement respond to what he says? Not everything (that would be burdensome ) just a few of his points?

They will just call him names which is okay I guess - but first respond to a few of the things he says.


By all all means call him names if you wish - but first earn it.

[mistermasan]

who are the leaders of the anti-war movement? seriously.

if it is so serious a threat why doesn't congress declare a war? the way it looks right now is a giant bondoggle for the benefit of the ruling elite.

when i shipped out for desert storm was 86 cents a gallon.


newt gingrich scaremongering. hard to imagine that. 'naff the scaremongers. live free. turn off fox news. so what if they nuke a city. then we turn the middle east- all of it to glass. the big question should be" is oil pumped out from darioactive soil radioactive?"


we can't tell the saudis or other well heeled middle eastern interests what to do. all we can do is react and carry a big stick and the biggest stick is this: you nuke us and we nuke all of you. turn them all to glass, pump the oil dry and bthen build solar panels on the glass.

enough with the scaring. declare, fight and win the war. anything short of that is discussing how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.

[Milwaukiedave]

The truth is, much like every Republican, he plays on people's fears. This is what Bush did after 9/11 and for awhile, people played along until it was too late and they figured out they've been screwed. Bush clearly had a majority of people behind him, his approval rating was sky high (something like high eight percent range).

Gingrich IS a good speaker and articulate, I'll give him that much. Too bad for the far right his creditablity is so tainted he can't run. He's way further right then McCain and would make Republicans much more happy then who will win the nomination.

He is essentially saying the sky is falling.

This is what is really telling is this statement: "Religiously driven people do things that don't calculate in nice academic faculty surroundings and don't calculate at the State Department and they don't calculate in rational ways in most of our bureaucracies. We are in trouble and somebody better start talking about it in a blunt way."

[Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee]

No not the sky isn't falling. Something else was.

[wannago]

[Milwaukiedave]

9/11, religious radicalism and Nazism. What a great combination if you want to scare someone into line. Sounds like a move toward a dictatorship to me.

[Ya-ta Boy]

The audio is just awful. I couldn't watch more than a couple of minutes. From what little I heard (up to where he has grandchildren and South Koreans in Afghanistan), he's just scare-mongering. Same typical nonsense we had during the Cold War.

Solution: fight smart.

[Milwaukiedave]

Ya-ta,

It might (and I say this gently) be the computer you are using or your connection. I actually listened to parts of it multiple times to transcribe that part of the speech I quoted in my post.

[Justin Hale]

Indeed, there's nothing wrong with the vid at all. And I fail to see why Gingrich is scaremongering at all. Scaremongering with the truth? Well, the bit about Iran desperately trying to acquire nukes is debatable and "we are not prepared today to be a serious country" is unnecessary, unhelpful and simply untrue, but his main point, about the threat posed by religious states in the Middle East and I include Israel because they want to destroy the Al-Aqsa Mosque and bring on Armageddon (and the messiah) is absolutely true and justified.

We are in trouble.

[Milwaukiedave]

JH,

You fail to even understand the context in which I was referring to the post of the pictures above. How about I put a picture of a nuclear bomb going off in front of you? I bet most people would be scared as hell.

[huffdaddy]