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What level public school is best?

 
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AussieGav



Joined: 02 Sep 2007
Location: Uijeongbu

PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:00 pm    Post subject: What level public school is best? Reply with quote

I want some advice as to which is the best level (elementary, middle or high school) to teach at. Things to take into consideration are pay, hours, vacation time, difficulty of teaching/students, accomodation.

I have been teaching in a hagwon for almost 2 years and my contract ends early June. I will have an F2 visa end of march but still require an appartment.

Also, what is the best way to go about finding the right job?

Any advice greatly appreciated.
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xCustomx



Joined: 06 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it may be a little difficult to find a position at the end of June, since the first semester ends in mid July. I think it would be a good idea to get a summer camp position for a few weeks and then set yourself up for the second semester at a public school in August.

From what I've read on this board, high school teachers usually receive the most vacation. You will be contracated to teach 22 class hours (40min elementary, 45min. middle, 50min. high) a week. I believe elementary school teachers have the best opportunity to make some OT when they teach after school classes.

As far as difficulty of teaching students, only you can answer that. I like working with elementary and middle school students. I was offered a few high school positions that had 2-3 months of vacation but wasn't remotely interested because I don't like working with older kids. It's going to come down to your personal preference.

As with all public schools though, your working conditions will vary. You may get the standard 14-21 days of vacation (if you're with GEPIK or SMOE) while another teacher down the road gets 3 months. It's best to talk to the school and find their position towards summer, winter, and spring camps, as well as your duties while school is not in session (ie. are you going to have to sit in the office from 9-5 even though you don't have any classes). Good luck
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aarontendo



Joined: 08 Feb 2006
Location: Daegu-ish

PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

high school rocks faces
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Mi Yum mi



Joined: 28 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

aarontendo wrote:
high school rocks faces


I think the opposite. High school sucks. The kids are drained from their 12 hours a day workload. Go Elementary. The classes are short, you'll be done earlier and there are more days off due to special events.

I know some people who work 9-1. that's probably the best you can do at a public school gig.
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Kimchieluver



Joined: 02 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never taught high school, heard it was a drag. I have taught elementary and middle. Elementary you finish earlier. Middle school you get more random days off. Elementary most of the kids still have some hope of learning to speak English. Middle, not so much. I prefer Middle, but its not that much of a difference from elementary. Add 1 or 2 years to the students age and see if it is a really big change. Not really.
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maingman



Joined: 26 Jan 2008
Location: left Korea

PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ukon



Joined: 29 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mi Yum mi wrote:
aarontendo wrote:
high school rocks faces


I think the opposite. High school sucks. The kids are drained from their 12 hours a day workload. Go Elementary. The classes are short, you'll be done earlier and there are more days off due to special events.

I know some people who work 9-1. that's probably the best you can do at a public school gig.


How does one get 9-1? If your last class is done at one, you can leave? People on the JET program mentioned similar situations and said it depends on your principal(or whoever)....some keep you till 4:30, others let you off.

Anybody know if it's similar....are Korean Principals lenient on this? I'd rather leave work early!
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sargx



Joined: 29 Nov 2007

PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I fit in better at high school. I'm a younger teacher (mid-20's) so I identify well with the kids. They also really like me which makes teaching easier. However, in high school you have to deal with a lot of students sleeping during class, they're overworked so your class becomes a study hall.
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Easter Clark



Joined: 18 Nov 2007
Location: Hiding from Yie Eun-woong

PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kimchieluver wrote:
Middle school you get more random days off.


Sorry to disagree with you, but in my experience you get many more "random days off" in a high school. I can't count the number of classes that have been canceled due to exams, K teachers prepping the kids for exams, obligations in other ("more important") classes, sports activities, etc. The FT at our middle school does get random days off, but she does have to work more than I do.

OP--As others have said, go with what makes you happy. If you think you'd like to teach the little ones, give it a go! Then if you discover you're not cut out for it, try another age group. The question is extremely subjective and depends a lot on your personality, energy level, and, in the end, your personal preference.

However, I wouldn't let shorter classes or time off be the deciding factor.

I have taught all age groups and found that, for me, high school students are the best age group to teach. That's because as I get older I don't have the enthusiasm necessary to give young kids all that they deserve!
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Kimchieluver



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easter Clark wrote:
Kimchieluver wrote:
Middle school you get more random days off.


Sorry to disagree with you, but in my experience you get many more "random days off" in a high school. I can't count the number of classes that have been canceled due to exams, K teachers prepping the kids for exams, obligations in other ("more important") classes, sports activities, etc. The FT at our middle school does get random days off, but she does have to work more than I do.

OP--As others have said, go with what makes you happy. If you think you'd like to teach the little ones, give it a go! Then if you discover you're not cut out for it, try another age group. The question is extremely subjective and depends a lot on your personality, energy level, and, in the end, your personal preference.

However, I wouldn't let shorter classes or time off be the deciding factor.

I have taught all age groups and found that, for me, high school students are the best age group to teach. That's because as I get older I don't have the enthusiasm necessary to give young kids all that they deserve!

You aren't disagreeing with me. I have never taught in a high school so I don't know. I was comparing middle school to elementary.
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have taught all age groups and found that, for me, high school students are the best age group to teach. That's because as I get older I don't have the enthusiasm necessary to give young kids all that they deserve!


Clark, have you taught at high school, junior high, and elementary school IN Korea?
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Easter Clark



Joined: 18 Nov 2007
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 4:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wylies99 wrote:

Clark, have you taught at high school, junior high, and elementary school IN Korea?


Not supposed to discuss that! Wink
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