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Suwoner10

Joined: 10 Dec 2007
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 7:45 am Post subject: Koreans & Bad Driving |
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S. Korean Fishing Vessel Sinks Off Angola, 3 Missing
BEIJING -- A South Korean fishing ship sank off the coast of Angola earlier this week after colliding with a Greek oil tanker, leaving three Chinese crew members missing, the Chinese Foreign Ministry said Saturday.
In a statement on its Website, the ministry said a total of 27 crew members were aboard the doomed vessel and three Chinese fisherman remain unaccounted for. The remainder were rescued, it added.
The Chinese government has called on Angola and neighboring nations to continue search operations and conduct an investigation into the exact cause of the Thursday accident, according to the statement.
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02-10-2008 09:12
South Korea Denies Report of Ship Sinking Off Angola
BEIJING -- South Korea denied media reports Saturday that one of its fishing vessels sank in Angolan waters earlier this week.
Earlier in the day, the Chinese Foreign Ministry said on its Website that a South Korean fishing ship sank off the coast of Angola earlier this week after colliding with a Greek oil tanker, leaving three Chinese crew members missing.
The ministry said a total of 27 crew members were aboard the doomed vessel and three Chinese fisherman remain unaccounted for. The remainder were rescued, it added.
But the South Korean Foreign Ministry said later that the doomed ship was an Angolan one and it actually hit a Panamanian oil tanker.
"There were no South Korean crew members on the sunken ship," the ministry said in its mobile phone text message to reporters.It confimed that three Chinese fishermen were missing. |
curious to hear the truth... |
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cheeseface
Joined: 13 Jan 2008 Location: Ssyangnyeon Shi
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 7:57 am Post subject: |
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Do you think that you are likely to hear anything true out of the South Korean government
Unless that Korea is sparkling  |
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Chris Kwon

Joined: 23 Jan 2008 Location: North Korea
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 8:07 am Post subject: |
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Although there is bad driving here, I think the average driver is more skilled than a typical American driver. Driving in the states was easy, and as far as here I will gladly wait a few years before getting my international drivers license. People can get through tight spots and weave through traffic jams and park in tight spots.
Running redlights and driving in the bus lane has more to do with attitude than skill. |
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Suwoner10

Joined: 10 Dec 2007
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 8:23 am Post subject: |
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Chris Kwon wrote: |
I think the average (Korean) driver is more skilled than a typical American driver. |
I thought crack was illegal in Korea. |
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Chris Kwon

Joined: 23 Jan 2008 Location: North Korea
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 8:31 am Post subject: |
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Suwoner10 wrote: |
Chris Kwon wrote: |
I think the average (Korean) driver is more skilled than a typical American driver. |
I thought crack was illegal in Korea. |
I'd say the majority of people in the states can't drive for shit(skill wise). There are grown men and women who still can't parallel park. America is easy to drive in.
Nowhere did I mention driving habits, I just said based on skill. It takes more skill to drive here than in America. |
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thiophene
Joined: 15 Sep 2007
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 9:09 am Post subject: |
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Chris Kwon wrote: |
Although there is bad driving here, I think the average driver is more skilled than a typical American driver. Driving in the states was easy, and as far as here I will gladly wait a few years before getting my international drivers license. People can get through tight spots and weave through traffic jams and park in tight spots.
Running redlights and driving in the bus lane has more to do with attitude than skill. |
I'd have to concur. Although their driving is annoying, I see less accidents here than in Toronto. I don't know, maybe the clean up after accidents here is fast but I doubt that. Drivers here can weave through anything, react fast, don't push on gas then immediately push on break over and over, it's a skill I do not see much of back home. |
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whatever

Joined: 11 Jun 2006 Location: Korea: More fun than jail.
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 9:43 am Post subject: |
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Chris Kwon wrote: |
I think the average [Korean] driver is more skilled than a typical American driver. |
Yep, in Korea only. |
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Suwoner10

Joined: 10 Dec 2007
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 11:06 am Post subject: |
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Chris Kwon wrote: |
Suwoner10 wrote: |
Chris Kwon wrote: |
I think the average (Korean) driver is more skilled than a typical American driver. |
I thought crack was illegal in Korea. |
I'd say the majority of people in the states can't drive for *beep*(skill wise). There are grown men and women who still can't parallel park. America is easy to drive in.
Nowhere did I mention driving habits, I just said based on skill. It takes more skill to drive here than in America. |
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bluelake

Joined: 01 Dec 2005
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 2:57 pm Post subject: |
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I remember, back in the early to mid-80s, when most people in Korea didn't drive. If they wanted to get somewhere, they walked, biked, or took mass-transportation. The taxi, bus, and truck drivers were just as crazy then as they are now (maybe even more).
I also remember when driving started to catch on with the general population. When someone wanted to learn to drive, they went to a driving school, which was probably started by a taxi, bus, or truck driver. Their driving habits were undoubtedly passed on to their students, on and on, ad infinitum...
When my family and I moved back to Korea in '89, I took mass-transportation for the first two years. However, I realized it wasn't going to work, so I bought a car and have been driving here ever since. Whereas in the West driving tends to be defensive (drive carefully and watch out for the other guy), driving in Korea is pretty much the opposite (look out for #1). It used to be, when I would head back to the States for a break, it took me a couple days to shake off my Korean driving habits. It took a day or so, after returning, to shake off my US driving habits.
I would not say Koreans are more skilled at driving. I would say they have set up a 400km long obstacle course that they have gotten used to.
As mentioned above, back in the early 80s most people did not drive. In order to get somewhere, they relied either upon their own muscles or someone else's driving. Because of that, back then Koreans were never in a hurry; they knew if they were late, that's just the way things were. Nowadays, since so many people in Korea drive, they think that whether they are late or on time is up to their foot on the gas pedal. Today, Koreans seem to always be in a hurry. I think it is because of the above-mentioned change in transportation. Just a thought... |
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laogaiguk

Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Location: somewhere in Korea
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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I do think it takes more skill here. They are also much bigger a-holes too though. I found the Japanese to be the best drivers I have ever seen. What they can do with a bus... |
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markhan
Joined: 02 Aug 2006
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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Actually a writer residing in Korea wrote how American misses getting into accident by feet whereas Koreans by inches. He noted that Koreans are technically better driver given the tighter driving environment. I drove for ten years in New York and a few years in Korea and I could assure that driving in Korea is a lot more difficult. I am particularly in awe of those bus drivers who can drive a big bus in such a narrow lane. The distance between parked cars and cars on the other lane seems impossibly narrow and yet, somehow they manage to pass through.
As for safe driving, that is another matter.
Suwoner10 wrote: |
Chris Kwon wrote: |
I think the average (Korean) driver is more skilled than a typical American driver. |
I thought crack was illegal in Korea. |
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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007 Location: Someplace you'd rather be.
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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I would argue that taxi drivers are most of the problem in Seoul. Sure, there are some pretty horrible ajumma drivers out there, but the taxi drivers are pretty scary. That and older guys driving more expensive cars. They feel the confuscian ass-kissing should also take place on the street.
I sometimes wonder if these guys travel overseas to the US, rent some cadillac, and end up shot dead for being an ass on the road and waving a finger at the wrong person. |
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jackson7
Joined: 01 Aug 2006 Location: Kim Jong Il's Future Fireball
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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Koreans know how to parallel park alright...it just happens to be of the 25+ point variety. I've watched some Korean Jacka$$ holdup traffic in his nice shiny SUV while trying to get into a parking spot at least 50% bigger than his vehicle. Back and forth, back and forth, back and forth...amazing. Sparkling, even.
Finally, there's no arguing the accident reports. Korea has some of the most (THE most?) accidents, deaths from car accidents, and deaths from DUIs (of course) of any OECD country. Sparkling indeed. If you want to see good drivers, look down upon the 16 converging laneless streets around the Arc de Triumph in Paris. Somehow the drivers use their magic ESP and incredibly small car size to slice through traffic at speeds that would make an adjumma flinch. |
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Kevin3701
Joined: 29 Jan 2008
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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Typical anti korean trolls. No offense but living in NY for the past 10 years in flushings which is the largest korean community outside of Korea 2nd after los angeles, alot of the wreckless drivers in this area were WHITE. Now, that doesnt mean its only whites but there are bad drivers everywhere, not just korea. |
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indytrucks

Joined: 09 Apr 2003 Location: The Shelf
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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Chris Kwon wrote: |
It takes more skill to drive here than in America. |
If by skill, you mean lunacy, then I concur.
Have you ever driven here? |
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