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Thiuda



Joined: 14 Mar 2006
Location: Religion ist f�r Sklaven geschaffen, f�r Wesen ohne Geist.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:31 pm    Post subject: Christian ESL? Reply with quote

Speak out against the combination of superstitious claptrap and education! It is not ok to pollute young minds with lies. Religion has no place in the classroom.

Religion is ignorance; stop it now.
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Demophobe



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You've nothing to worry about. Nobody is teaching ESL here.

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SuperHero



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 11:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Christian ESL? Reply with quote

Thiuda wrote:
Speak out against the combination of superstitious claptrap and education! It is not ok to pollute young minds with lies. Religion has no place in the classroom.

Religion is ignorance; stop it now.

actually if it is a Christian school and parents are aware of that fact there is no problem with that.

While you're at it we should ban Athiesm because in my opinion athiests are just as likely to be evangalizing the absence of God as Christians, Muslims, Buddhists etc.. are to be evangelizing their own beliefs.

anyhow having said my say, I realize I'm responding to what is most likely a troll, but hey you gotta have fun sometimes.
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And there are no 'Christian' schools in the west?
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mrsquirrel



Joined: 13 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I taught at a sunday school in Korea when I was there (on Sundays obviously).

The recruiter who got me the job told me to lie on my resume and say I was Canadian and a chirstian. So I whipped up a bodged resume and a univeristy in Canada ( I chose Halifax university which doesn't exist which I didn't realise)

My Sunday there I arrive to see my bloody resume on an OHP 12 foot high with all my lies on show. They believed me though or at least they wanted to. I felt bloody guilty/

I was terrified that I was going to be struck down by a bolt of from the heavens.

They turned out to be really decent people. Paid me 60k an hour as well which wasn't bad for about 25 minutes teaching of songs and the rest singing and clapping with the students.
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Boodleheimer



Joined: 10 Mar 2006
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

so are you mr. squirrel or mrs. quirrel?
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Thiuda



Joined: 14 Mar 2006
Location: Religion ist f�r Sklaven geschaffen, f�r Wesen ohne Geist.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unfortunately, I think you�re wrong; atheists do not speak out enough against religious superstition. While I have to endure religious symbolism wherever I go, when was the last time you were confronted with atheist iconography? When was the last time atheists accosted you on the subway?

People don�t believe in Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny, but are happy to suspend disbelief when it comes to a personal god (or gods). People don�t believe in Zeus or Odin anymore, but are unable to take the next step and forsake the filth coming from a book over two thousand years old.

Children should not be subjected to religion! They do not have the ability to discern between reality and fiction, between what is real and what is made up by the ignorant to explain phenomena they cannot explain. Imagine the horror of a child confronted with someone nailed to a cross? What an awful sight!

In contrast, imagine the wonder and amazement of a child looking through a telescope, or a microscope. Curiosity is aroused and a desire to explore!

Religion is child abuse; stop it now.
Religion is ignorance; stop it now.


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SuperHero



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

and if a post written in such an offensive manner obviously designed to raise an emotional response such as this is not from a troll I don't know what is.
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mateomiguel



Joined: 16 May 2005

PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thiuda wrote:
When was the last time atheists accosted you on the subway?


A better question would be "when was the last time atheists accosted you on the internet?" The answer to that would be... just now! HA!
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mrsquirrel wrote:
I taught at a sunday school in Korea when I was there (on Sundays obviously).

The recruiter who got me the job told me to lie on my resume and say I was Canadian and a chirstian. So I whipped up a bodged resume and a univeristy in Canada ( I chose Halifax university which doesn't exist which I didn't realise)

My Sunday there I arrive to see my bloody resume on an OHP 12 foot high with all my lies on show. They believed me though or at least they wanted to. I felt bloody guilty/

I was terrified that I was going to be struck down by a bolt of from the heavens.

They turned out to be really decent people. Paid me 60k an hour as well which wasn't bad for about 25 minutes teaching of songs and the rest singing and clapping with the students.


That is just hilarious. A faux-Christian from Halifax University teaching English Sunday school to Korean kids for k60 / hr. Only in Korea.
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andrew



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 2:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Natalia



Joined: 10 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 4:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Speak out against the combination of superstitious claptrap and education! It is not ok to pollute young minds with lies. Religion has no place in the classroom.

Religion is ignorance; stop it now.



Had no luck in the Christmas tree thread, so thought try somewhere else?
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Missile Command Kid



Joined: 17 Jul 2006
Location: Daegu

PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 5:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thiuda wrote:
Unfortunately, I think you’re wrong; atheists do not speak out enough against religious superstition. While I have to endure religious symbolism wherever I go, when was the last time you were confronted with secular iconography?


Let's count the logos I saw today: Nike, Lotte, Daegu Police Department, Subway, McDonalds, Lego, Hyundai, Samsung... the list goes on. "Secular iconography" means "product advertising." If you want to argue that these brands don't promote a specific ideology, I'd suggest you look up the definition of the term "commercialism."

Thiuda wrote:
When was the last time atheists accosted you on the subway?


A few weeks ago, an ajumma pulled a bunch of grapes out of her purse and gave it to my kid. No lie. I don't know if she was an atheist, but she sure was pushing vegetarianism on us!

Thiuda wrote:
People don’t believe in Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny, but are happy to suspend disbelief when it comes to a personal god (or gods). People don’t believe in Zeus or Odin anymore...


That's where you're wrong. Asatru is alive and well in the New World. There's a troth on Vancouver Island, in fact, one which I'm well acquainted with. I don't know about Zeus, but if you're too lazy for a rudimentary Google search, I'm not going to bother.

Thiuda wrote:
...but are unable to take the next step and forsake the filth coming from a book over two thousand years old.


Yeah, I'm pretty sick of people quoting Homer too. Oh, and don't even get me started on Sophicles! His Oedipal cycle... man, that should be banned in universities too!

Thiuda wrote:
Children should not be subjected to religion!


Hear, hear! Yesterday, when my kids went to church, they actually sang songs and coloured! I'm thinking about turning myself in to the police for child abuse.

Thiuda wrote:
They do not have the ability to discern between reality and fiction, between what is real and what is made up by the ignorant to explain phenomena they cannot explain.


Glad to see we have a child psychologist on the board. Where did you get your PhD? Have you published any articles on the subject?

Thiuda wrote:
Imagine the horror of a child confronted with someone nailed to a cross? What an awful sight!


Historically speaking, crucifixion as a means of torture and execution is factual. Now, I don't know about you, but I don't know of many churches that actually nail people to crosses at Easter. Your comment makes as much sense as "Imagine the horror of a child confronted with somebody tied to the electric chair! What an awful sight!" Now, tell me: is that a valid argument against the death penalty?

Thiuda wrote:
In contrast, imagine the wonder and amazement of a child looking through a telescope, or a microscope. Curiosity is aroused and a desire to explore!


I wasn't aware of the prohibition against religious children using a telescope or microscope. I'm also not aware of any religions that are against curiousity. Granted, the last time I read the Ten Commandments was a few months ago - did they recently add those in?

Thiuda wrote:
Religion is child abuse; stop it now.


Okay. You've convinced me.

Thiuda wrote:
Religion is ignorance; stop it now.


Seriously, that was great. I've only been a Christian for twenty years or so, but your hard-hitting post was enough to get me to renounce my faith. What an amazing command of the English language and rhetoric you have there, sir! I would have gone with a dash rather than the semicolon for that final bit of parallelism, but what you've got works too. I also admire the fact that you're not actually interacting with anybody here in the thread. I mean, somebody as confident in their beliefs as yourself wouldn't need to test their beliefs by engaging in an intelligent conversation, right?

Bravo. Now, what was the job-related question again?


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Thiuda



Joined: 14 Mar 2006
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 5:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I�m not intentionally writing to offend. What I�m trying to do is raise peoples awareness to the fact that religion is a form of enslavement of the mind. The best way to do this is to expose its flaws. So, no, andrew, I don�t teach my child to hate anyone, in contrast to religious instruction, which teaches that there is an in-group, faith-heads, and an out-group, non-believers or people who believe in other gods. I try to teach my daughter to consider all the information and make decisions based on facts. This is called the scientific method, if you apply it to religion; you quickly come to the conclusion that belief in meta-physical beings is false.

I believe it is important that people in general start becoming cognizant of the malignant nature of religion. Like a cancer it infests the mind and destroys reason. How else can one explain that people are not only willing blow to themselves up, or kill in the name of their god(s), but, in the face of pervasive evidence, teach something so patently wrong as intelligent design? This is why I�m against �Christian ESL�, because it doesn�t teach students anything besides how to turn off their brain.

Religion is enslavement; stop it now.
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mrsquirrel



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 5:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thiuda wrote:
religion is a form of enslavement of the mind


I think if you head north of Seoul a few hundred kilometers you may find a few million people waiting to be freed.

Watch out for the barbed wire though.
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