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New Proof of JFK Film Fakery, "Conclusive Evidence"
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regicide



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 1:31 pm    Post subject: New Proof of JFK Film Fakery, "Conclusive Evidence" Reply with quote

Madison, WI (OpEdNews) February 5, 2008 � The editor of Assassination Research, James H. Fetzer, Ph.D., has announced the discovery of new proof that the home movies of the assassination of JFK known as the Zapruder film and a second known as the Nix film are fakes. (The Nix film was taken from the opposite side looking toward �the grassy knoll.�) Both were subject to extensive alteration to fabricate evidence of the crime and keep the truth about the sequence of events in Dealey Plaza from the American people. Fetzer, McKnight Professor Emeritus at the University of Minnesota, observed that the films are authentic only if the visible events they record correspond to the actual sequence of events at the time. �This proof is based upon the convergent testimony of motorcycle patrolmen, members of the Secret Service, and the Dallas Chief of Police. That it contradicts the official account of the assassination recorded in the films qualifies as a major breakthrough.�

Description: A new study of eyewitness reports in

http://assassinationresearch.com

has revealed a major discrepancy between the sequence of events as these witnesses observed it and the sequence presented in home movies of the assassination known as the Zapruder film and the Nix film. The witnesses reported that a motorcycle patrolman rode forward to the lead car to advise the Chief of Police the President had been shot. Neither film shows it.

http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_ji..._of_jfk_fil.htm


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are we supposed to believe that the "conspirators" had the ability to convincingly fake 35mm film in 1963, but the technology to detect the fakery didn't arrive until 2003? That's a bit of a stretch.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 4:27 pm    Post subject: Re: New Proof of JFK Film Fakery, "Conclusive Evidence& Reply with quote

regicide wrote:
The witnesses reported that a motorcycle patrolman rode forward to the lead car to advise the Chief of Police the President had been shot. Neither film shows it.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder if this picture is a fake too?

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regicide



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stillnotking wrote:
Are we supposed to believe that the "conspirators" had the ability to convincingly fake 35mm film in 1963, but the technology to detect the fakery didn't arrive until 2003? That's a bit of a stretch.



Fair enough. But keep in mind that the official report did not come under immediate public scrutiny. In fact, it was not until 1969 at the Garrison trial in New Orleans that anyone had seen the film.

1969

February: LIFE complied with a subpoena from Jim Garrison and provided the film for showing at the Clay Shaw trial. Security was so lax that the film was illegally duplicated, and bootleg copies were soon sold all over the country. They were shown at conspiracy lectures, and even a time or two on local TV. (Stolley 1992)

February 13: Abraham Zapruder appears as a prosecution witness in the Clay Shaw trial in New Orleans. He identified it as identical to the film he shot, as the film was shown for the first time in public. It was shown 5 times that day, altogether. By the end of the case, it was shown 5 more times, once frame by frame. While the film was in Garrison's possession, many copies were covertly made. Garrison let Mark Lane make 100 copies for distribution "to colleges and universities." Copies began surfacing all over the country; some were 9th or 10th generation copies.

1973

This year, Robert Groden showed his enhanced print of the Zapruder film at a research conference in Boston. (Jim DeEugenio, "Destiny Betrayed")
In 1973, the Boston-based Assassination Information Bureau began a lecture series which included the Zapruder film. This continued for 3 years, to 600 audiences in 45 states. For $30 the AIB offered a copy of the film and a set of slides.

http://www.jfklancer.com/History-Z.html


�This proof is based upon the convergent testimony of motorcycle patrolmen, members of the Secret Service, and the Dallas Chief of Police. That it contradicts the official account of the assassination recorded in the films qualifies as a major breakthrough.�
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

huffdaddy wrote:
I wonder if this picture is a fake too?



That's pretty fucking cool.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You simpletons really take the cake--here we have a case where a man is framed with bogus pictures and you , in a manner which has to go down as the most vile picture shown yet, mock this man at the moment of his death.

Have you no shame?



blaseblasphemener wrote:
huffdaddy wrote:
I wonder if this picture is a fake too?

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That's pretty *beep* cool.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Obama was behind the assassination of JFK

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

�This proof is based upon the convergent testimony of motorcycle patrolmen, members of the Secret Service, and the Dallas Chief of Police.

That it contradicts the official account of the assassination recorded in the films qualifies as a major breakthrough.�
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Have you no shame?


I'm not sure you of all people are the one to be making this point, even though I agree the photo was in bad taste. I think you lack the moral standing after the pix you posted earlier, so I hope you are being ironic.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Altered or not, the Zapruder film shows JFK shot in the throat from the front circa Z190 and shot in the head from the front at Z313.

The claim that the Zapruder film (or any of the Dealey Plaza films and photos) support the "official story" resides in the category of "mis-information."

Outside of the context of this discussion, the claim that the photographic evidence is consistent with 3 shots from the TSBD is usually nothing more than a desperate Lone Nut talking point.

I find it ironic that non-alterationists are readily accused of being "disinformation" agents by folks who repeat "misinformation" about what the Zapruder film shows.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Holy cow. What if this thread were faked? Shocked
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the final Altgen's photo, you can see many people on the triple overpass overlooking the motorcade route and JFK's last journey outside a casket.


The question is--what in the world are they doing there?

Do some research on presidential protection and you will quickly find how strictly controlled overpasses such as these are.

I have heard a story from a State Police officer recently who said when Bush passed by his jurisdiction, every overpass was closed and there were sharpshooters positioned on every one--and the Bush motorcade was speeding by at 70 miles an hour!

Contrast this with a slow moving motorcade in the middle of the city.

Another Altgen's photo , which was the subject of a previous discussion on this board shows people hanging around on the fire escape watching the motorcade. Check for yourself if those people should have been there as well.







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