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Can he keep me out of the city????
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Daphilia



Joined: 25 Aug 2006
Location: British Columbia

PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 6:59 pm    Post subject: Can he keep me out of the city???? Reply with quote

It will be a year on March 1st since I left Korea after completing a 1 year contract with a Hawgwon. I will be signing another contract this month with a public school to return to the same city, Mokpo. I was told by the director of the Hawgwon that I taught at a year ago, that I could not come back to Mokpo to teach at another school due to a clause in the contract. It states that,

"the teacher can not make employment contract with any other school or institute located in or nearby Mokpo City after termination or cancellation of this contract period."

Does he have the right to restrict me from working at a public school in Mokpo a year later?
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The_Conservative



Joined: 15 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Short answer no he doesn't

Long answer: If however he does find out he may be able to cause some hassle for you. Just don't let him know and you should be fine,
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Juregen



Joined: 30 May 2006

PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Such clauses are not necessarily legal. Don't quote me on that.

I know that such clauses exist with people who have specific and intricate knowledge on certain products, to keep them from selling "property", but stopping you from working in a specified area is weird and I cannot see a reason to substantiate such a clause within a contract.


But first he has to find out that you actually are working in said area, and then he has to go to court, which can be a very long and extended and costly affair.
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roknroll



Joined: 29 Dec 2007

PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

absolute nonsense
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Rumple



Joined: 19 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Juregen wrote:
Such clauses are not necessarily legal. Don't quote me on that.

I know that such clauses exist with people who have specific and intricate knowledge on certain products, to keep them from selling "property", but stopping you from working in a specified area is weird and I cannot see a reason to substantiate such a clause within a contract.


But first he has to find out that you actually are working in said area, and then he has to go to court, which can be a very long and extended and costly affair.


Court isn't costly for Koreans if they represent themselves pro se. It would just be costly for foreigners who don't speak Korean and therefore cannot do the same thing.
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expat2001



Joined: 28 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 1:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Juregen wrote:
Such clauses are not necessarily legal. Don't quote me on that.

I know that such clauses exist with people who have specific and intricate knowledge on certain products, to keep them from selling "property", but stopping you from working in a specified area is weird and I cannot see a reason to substantiate such a clause within a contract.


But first he has to find out that you actually are working in said area, and then he has to go to court, which can be a very long and extended and costly affair.


i think you are giving the hogwon owner too much credit.He/she probably wont even remember you. As far as they are concerned , we all look alike
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valkerie



Joined: 02 Mar 2007
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 5:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The part of your contract u quoted sounds like the clause is intended for those leaving early or being fired. (regardless of the legal aspect I can see why someon wd add it in these cases). But otherwise it seems a bizarre thing to say.
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ChopChaeJoe



Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 6:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you hosing us or do really belive there may be an issue here?
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Kimchieluver



Joined: 02 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 6:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In common law, that clause is only valid if it will hurt the contractor's business some way. For example, a dentist may not be able to quit and start his own practice within 10 miles/kilometers from his original place of business. It also has to do with trade secrets. Anyways, since you are not endangering the wanja's business by working in a public school, under common law you don't have to care. But this is Korea sparkling and who knows. I highly doubt that your former director could ever enforce this and also, I think Kimmi and the Ministry of Ed trump him/her.
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now that people have stated the irrelevant laws in the West, does anyone know what the relevant laws are in Korea?
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Kimchieluver



Joined: 02 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 6:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:
Now that people have stated the irrelevant laws in the West, does anyone know what the relevant laws are in Korea?

I am sure someone does. They probably don't visit this site though.
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 6:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's in their Constitution. You have a right to work. Furthermore, the Constitution requires all laws, rules, regulations, etc. relating to employment to guarantee your dignity.

Getting all that actually in place is the question.
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Temporary



Joined: 13 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 8:59 am    Post subject: Re: Can he keep me out of the city???? Reply with quote

Daphilia wrote:
It will be a year on March 1st since I left Korea after completing a 1 year contract with a Hawgwon. I will be signing another contract this month with a public school to return to the same city, Mokpo. I was told by the director of the Hawgwon that I taught at a year ago, that I could not come back to Mokpo to teach at another school due to a clause in the contract. It states that,

"the teacher can not make employment contract with any other school or institute located in or nearby Mokpo City after termination or cancellation of this contract period."

Does he have the right to restrict me from working at a public school in Mokpo a year later?


Bahahah. This guys is nuts. I would like him to take on a Public school.


Legalise..

"termination or cancellation of this contract period"

Sounds like you finished the contract thus this clause is null. I am assuming you didn't get fired and or quit.. Hence Termination and cancellation.. There is NO mention of "completion"
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plus99



Joined: 30 Dec 2007

PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

roknroll wrote:
absolute nonsense


yeah, i wouldnt worry about it
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DrunkenMaster



Joined: 04 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Morons. All of you.
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