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[Milwaukiedave]

http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/03/house_dems_in_florida_no_redo.php

"We are committed to working with the DNC, the Florida State Democratic party, our Democratic leaders in Florida, and our two candidates to reach an expedited solution that ensures our 210 delegates are seated. Our House delegation is opposed to a mail-in campaign or any redo of any kind.�

The Florida DNC has said they are not willing to have another election, essentially killing the chance of it happening. Mind you these are the same people who pushed up the primary and created the problem in the first place.

It will be interesting to see Michigan follows suit or continues to push for a firehouse primary in May or June.

[cbclark4]

So why did they work AGAINST the DNC on the first go 'round?

Bunch of dopes.

[Milwaukiedave]

There are a lot of people asking that. Of course it's all the DNC's fault.

[cbclark4]

.. and I thought I was the first.

[agentX]

So the Florida branch wants to be hard-headed, huh?

Too bad then. They can sit outside Denver if they want to be like that.

And even with Florida being seated, Obama still leads in the delegate count. Does she really want to give him more delegates at this point? With Oregon, Indiana, and Montana left, does she really think getting the big states will save her?

Oh, that's right, the superdelegates! Well, according to recent reports, they're not too fond of her right now. Everyone except the governor who spent 80K on hoes.

[Kuros]

It honestly seems to me that many people don't want Florida to be represented at the primary.

I wonder why . . .

Same blog, next post:

[Ya-ta Boy]

I read an opinion piece suggesting the Democratic NATIONAL Committee pay for the re-vote. That seems to me to be the best solution.

Go over the head of the state committee if need be and just set a date. If the state leadership doesn't like it, too bad. It would be no problem at all getting volunteers to do the work. I think Dean needs to step up NOW and settle this thing.

[Milwaukiedave]

[Ya-ta Boy]

[Milwaukiedave]

[Ya-ta Boy]

According to the article linked below, the real problem seems to be the Florida Congressional delegation. That wasn't what I understood before. The article is not very informative: "Members of Florida's congressional delegation reiterated their opposition to the plan, saying, "We do not believe that this is a realistic option at this time and remain opposed to a mail-in ballot election or any new primary election in Florida of any kind." Although I'd be interested in hearing their reasons for opposition, my gut says to tell them to go fly a kite.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080313/ap_on_el_pr/primary_scramble

Something needs to be done quickly.

[Milwaukiedave]

Hmm..I think they need to be told something a little worse then go fly a kite. Maybe closer to "you guys need to clean up your act or quit the party and find other jobs" would be more like it.

[Milwaukiedave]

Update...

Florida gives up on re-vote


Florida Democratic chairwoman Karen Thurman sends out an angry email abandoning hope of a re-vote in the state:



Last week, the Florida Democratic Party laid out the only existing way that we can comply with DNC Rules � a statewide revote run by the Party � and asked for input.

Thousands of people responded. We spent the weekend reviewing your messages, and while your reasons vary widely, the consensus is clear: Florida doesn�t want to vote again.

So we won�t.

This is a real setback for Hillary, who could have gotten both delegates, momentum, and -- crucially -- a stronger chance to claim a popular vote lead out of the revote.



Thurman says they're not giving up, with the other options, in theory, being to recognize the earlier vote, to agree on a 50-50 split, or some compromise in between.

"This doesn�t mean that Democrats are giving up on Florida voters. It means that a solution will have to come from the DNC Rules & Bylaws Committee, which is scheduled to meet again in April," Thurman writes.

I'm not sure a process issue like this one -- getting shut out of the primary process -- will move Democratic voters in November, but I suspect John McCain's pollsters will find out.

Meanwhile on the Michigan plan for revoting...

Michigan leaders propose June 3 primary

I've gotten a copy of the draft legislation that Michigan Democratic leaders are set to back.

According to the summary, it would:

"Designate June 3, 2008 as the date of a state presidential primary election in Michigan. The election would be conducted in the same manner as a regular election in Michigan, except for procedures specific to presidential primaries such as party ballot selection. "

[agentX]

FL had their chance. At least Michigan is being reasonable and adapting to fit within the rules.

FL wants to be hard-headed then. I disagreed with their excuses as to why it had to be a primary only.
How hard is it to mail out a goddamn letter?! You check the databases for addresses, you send them out, people fill them out, and send them back. If they muck it up, send another one or have 'em fax it in.

But no, they wanna do it their way...too bad. I hope the DNC rules committee holds their ground.

[Ya-ta Boy]