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Poor first aid adds to heart failure deaths

 
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Real Reality



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 10:35 am    Post subject: Poor first aid adds to heart failure deaths Reply with quote

Poor first aid adds to heart failure deaths
By Koh Byung-joon, Yonhap News (February 27, 2008)
http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/techscience/2008/02/27/0601000000AEN20080227003800320.HTML
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South Koreans' survival rate from heart failure lags far behind those of advanced nations as patients and their family members do not know what first aid should be given, a report showed Wednesday.

According to the report released by the Korea Center for Disease Control and Prevention, only 4.6 percent of South Koreans who suffered from heart failure and other cardiovascular diseases survived. The report is based on patient records at hospitals across the nation.
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bluelake



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A year ago, we had a CPR course for faculty here at the university. Only a few of us attended, but we got a lot out of it. I had CPR training many years ago, but it was good to have a refresher.

Korea truly does have a shortfall when it comes to first aid and I hope that will change. Also, I hope the situation changes where drivers pull off the road for emergency vehicles.
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VanIslander



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Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Notice how the Korean reporter didn't include any indication of the sort of first aid that is lacking.

Why bother? I guess. This is a nation which hasn't responded to public health campaigns about the value of washing hands after using the bathroom.
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simone



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korea has no good samaritan laws. If I successfully perform CPR and break a rib, I'm liable for that. God forbid you unsuccessfully perform it.

If I had an AED (automated external defibrillator), which are essentially foolproof, and used it, I could be criminally charged, as they are illegal for anyone other than a doc to use.

Even ambulance technicians aren't allowed to use them.

There's been a proposed law on the books for ever, it might pass, but not if the doctors have any say... you'd think they like having patients show up alive at the hospital - far more profitable than DOA.
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Ilsanman



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 12:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If I successfully perform CPR and break a rib, I'm liable for that


Good to know. I would certainly call 119 or 112, whatever the number is. But I won't perform CPR on anyone. If I am good and he/she survives, I could get sued.
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simone



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 1:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ilsanman wrote:
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If I successfully perform CPR and break a rib, I'm liable for that


Good to know. I would certainly call 119 or 112, whatever the number is. But I won't perform CPR on anyone. If I am good and he/she survives, I could get sued.


I should say, that if you are currently certified by the Red Cross, they will cover any liability for you should you find yourself in such a situation.

Looking back at the situation, I'd probably regret not helping if I thought I could more than any real liability faced. It's just a gamble, that's all.
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Chicoloco



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 3:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Why bother? I guess. This is a nation which hasn't responded to public health campaigns about the value of washing hands after using the bathroom.


Levels of hygiene in my public middle school are so poor that I managed to pick up a nasty infection called enterococcus.
Really unpleasant and hard to get rid of.

No soap, no hot water, not towels, no toilet paper.....I'm guessing CPR and basic first aid understanding is wishful thinking.

I really wish that instead of "drawing day" "physical strength test day" the public schools would take just one period to teach basic hygiene and first aid.
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