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regicide
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JAWINSEOUL
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I'll never forget that day, I was walking beside one of those big green elecrical boxes and heard the news on my walkman.  |
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uberscheisse
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Location: japan is better than korea.
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| Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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| why can't people today realize that "gun+president=fun"? |
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mistermasan
Joined: 20 Sep 2007
Location: 10+ yrs on Dave's ESL cafe
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| Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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where was the shooter from?
who would have immediately benefitted from reagan's demise?
who was the VPs son to have dinner w/ that evening? |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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| mistermasan wrote: |
| who would have immediately benefitted from reagan's demise? |
Are you suggesting that Alexander Haig masterminded the attempt? |
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spliff
Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand
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| Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Of course he did. He had John Hinckley Jr brainwashed. |
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mistermasan
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| Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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| would haig have become prez upon reagan's death? |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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| from Wikipedia's summary on Secretary of State Alexander Haig wrote: |
I'm in control here
In 1981, after the March 30 assassination attempt on Reagan, Haig asserted before reporters "I'm in control here" as a result of Reagan's hospitalization. Rather than being seen as an attempt to allay the nation's fear, the quotation became seen as an attempt by Haig to exceed his authority.
"Constitutionally, gentlemen, you have the President, the Vice President and the Secretary of State in that order, and should the President decide he wants to transfer the helm to the Vice President, he will do so. He has not done that. As of now, I am in control here, in the White House, pending return of the Vice President and in close touch with him. If something came up, I would check with him, of course."
��Alexander Haig, Alexander Haig, autobiographical profile in TIME Magazine, April 2, 1984
Haig was incorrect in his interpretation of the U.S. Constitution concerning both the presidential line of succession and the 25th Amendment, which dictates what happens when a president is incapacitated. But the holders of the two offices between the Vice President and the Secretary of State, the Speaker of the House (at the time, Tip O'Neill) and the President pro tempore of the Senate (at the time, J. Strom Thurmond), would be required under U.S. law (3 U.S.C. 19) to resign their positions in order for either of them to become acting President. This was an unlikely event considering that Vice-President Bush was merely not immediately available. Haig's statement therefore reflected political reality, if not necessarily legal reality. Haig later said...
"I wasn�t talking about transition. I was talking about the executive branch, who is running the government. That was the question asked. It was not, 'Who is in line should the President die?'"
�� Alexander Haig, Alexander Haig interview with 60 Minutes II April 23, 2001
The United States Constitution does not mention office of Secretary of State at all. It was created, as all other cabinet posts, later. In contrast, Speaker of the House and President pro tempore are offices established by the constitution. |
By the way, I agree with those whose take on this is simply that, in the chaos of the attempt and the Vice-President's absence from the White House, Haig, a general officer, responded as a professional military leader does in such situations: he, erroneously in this case, took the initiative.
Not a conspiracy, however. Just a clusterfuck. (And how does "clusterfuck" pass the swear filter while "Dick Cheney" gets deleted?) |
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regicide
Joined: 01 Sep 2006
Location: United States
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| Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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| mistermasan wrote: |
where was the shooter from?
who would have immediately benefitted from reagan's demise?
who was the VPs son to have dinner w/ that evening? |
Read - - "George Bush The Unauthorized Biography" to can an insight into the relationship between Scott Hinckley, the brother of John Hinckley , Jr., who was charged with shooting President Reagan and three others and the Bush family. Scott Hinkley was to have been a dinner guest Tuesday night at the home of Neil Bush, son of Vice President George Bush.
(According to the Houston Post )
On page 370 in the chapter "Coup d' Etat" Tarpley writes-- �Curiously enough, press accounts emerging over the next few days provided a prima facie case that there had been a conspiracy around the Hinckley attentat, and that the conspiracy had included members of Bush's immediate family. Most of the overt facts were not disputed, but were actually confirmed by Bush and his family. |
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