Korean Job Discussion Forums

[venus]

I'm kind of paranoid that it's easy for the companies to fix or for dodgy employees to view hole cards.

Also I noticed that although the free play some offer claims to use the same tech software and random card generators, it feels different as though it lets you win a lot more easilly and of course, you DO win a lot more easilly....

And then there is the subject of 'bots' and company players hired to play the tables...

Also - what are the poker rooms like at the Korean Casionos....?

[happeningthang]

I wouldn't wast my money on it.

I've heard stories of guys with a room full of PCs and modems filling up online tables and taking whoever wanders in for whatever they want to bet.

You're right to be suspicious. I didn't even think about bots.

[Tiger Beer]

I'd be very careful of regular tables that anyone can join in.

I play a lot on facebook, and people are constantly asking each other for MSN accounts. Not good.

I like the large tournaments though. It's completely random who you match up with, so makes it more difficult for someone to 'cheat' with their friends with MSN, etc.

[stvwrd]

Back when I was playing some serious poker, I dabbled in online play. I was never that scared of collusion because they still don't know MY cards, even if they know each others'. I think that solid play... maybe playing a little extra conservative, you could stick it out in that game.

But on the other hand, if 9 of the players at a table are all dudes together in one room with different IP addresses, and they're all gunning for you, the table would be incredibly tight to the point of making it obvious what's going on. You wouldn't get much action, and when you're not getting much action you should change tables anyway.

I could be wrong, I haven't played serious poker for a couple years now (just wasn't fun anymore; it felt like a job) and I'm sure the technology has changed. Besides, I was never that good online. I generally just broke even. I do think that online play is different than face to face.

The tournaments were fun but you'll see some crazy stuff in any tournament structured to be finished so quickly.

As far as bots are concerned, I think it's a pretty common practice for an online casino, especially one just starting out, to actually hire players to come in and keep games going. Aside from this, they still can't make a dedicated robot capable of beating a good card player in Hold 'em (I read an article about this just recently. I think I remember that Laak, Helmuth, and some other dude... maybe Jesus Fergusen, have all tested card playing robots, and all beaten them soundly) so I wouldn't be too scared of someone's software program.

In other words, from a programming perspective, I think it would be pretty difficult to be able to smoothly scam people without them noticing. The best method I can think of would be to skim an extra tenth of a cent off of split pots, but that would be easily detected by all these dudes tracking all their hands for their own research (the guy that wrote the book Freakonomics, I think it's Steven Leavitt, has a big research project going on about online poker right now), as you can download hand histories and import them into independent analysis software.

The summary of it all is that sure, it may be possible, but even if it's not obvious, you wouldn't stick around the game that long anyway, so if you know what you're doing and know when to walk away from a table I wouldn't be too concerned about it. Check out the two plus two publisher forums. Surely people there are talking about it. Plenty of dudes do very well playing online poker. I just kind of did it for fun. I never got into it that much.

[stvwrd]

I forgot to mention my primary point: Sure they might be able to find some way to scam you and risk their whole business if it gets out, or they could just honestly make their fortunes off of the rakes they're already making on thousands of tables going on simultaneously. The rakes are lower than live games, but when the whole 'casino' is run by four people and you can have an unlimited amount of tables running at the same time, you're still looking at a huge return.

I don't think the risk is worth the reward for these online sites to scam people, imho.

That doesn't mean it hasn't ever happened though. I've been wrong many times before.

[JMO]

[Nerual]

[Bryan]

Are there any problems to do with Korean laws about getting your payouts with online gambling?

I've been getting into bonus betting in online casinos, and might start trying to play poker online.

Would love to hear about others in the same scene.

[JMO]