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mistermasan
Joined: 20 Sep 2007 Location: 10+ yrs on Dave's ESL cafe
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 5:50 am Post subject: should films advocating terrorism be banned? |
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no poll included!
should films glorifying/extolling/advocating terrorism be banned? |
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Captain Corea

Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 5:57 am Post subject: |
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| How about including torture in there as well? |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 10:59 am Post subject: |
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| What films were you thinking of? Batman, where an unauthorized person in funny clothes runs around enforcing his version of the way things should be? |
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003 Location: I walk along the avenue
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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| A law like that would be a standing invitation for anyone with a grindable ax to launch frivolous legal complaints against any violent film with a political view opposite their own. You'd have pro-Israeli apologists trying to ban Spielberg's Munich because a Palestinian terrorist gives a speech explaining the rationale for his actions, which some people in the audience might find convincing. And Palestinian apologists could probably make the same argument about the Israeli's speeches in that film. |
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cheeseface
Joined: 13 Jan 2008 Location: Ssyangnyeon Shi
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 1:56 pm Post subject: |
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Terrorism? You mean like bombing innocent civilians from above?
Platoon, Full Metal Jacket, They should be banned.....
Any more films featuring innocents being bombed? Please add to the list. |
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stillnotking

Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Location: Oregon, USA
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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| This is a pretty serious First Amendment issue, actually. A lot of legal ink has been spilled over just how "protected" speech should be when it constitutes an incitement to violence. There's not a hard-and-fast answer. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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| If you're talking the USA. No. The law would never pass a court test. As the other poster intimates, there already are laws against incitements to violence. |
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VanIslander

Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 5:31 pm Post subject: Re: should films advocating terrorism be banned? |
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| mistermasan wrote: |
no poll included!
should films glorifying/extolling/advocating terrorism be banned? |
banning films for ideological content?
not in a free country |
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mistermasan
Joined: 20 Sep 2007 Location: 10+ yrs on Dave's ESL cafe
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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well...blowing up the financial district of NY was just so much "cooler" when brad pitt did it.
knocking off the tools of empire was so much better when humphrey bogart waxed the nazi at the casablanca airport.
yes, this thread was created with the intention of fathoming out how far folks are willing to go.
popular movements/cultural shifts do not spring up overnight. somebody lights the spark. |
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VanIslander

Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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| mistermasan wrote: |
| yes, this thread was created with the intention of fathoming out how far folks are willing to go |
okay, you've admitted to being a TROLL, now go sit under a bridge
... or better yet, get off your perch and enjoy a beautiful Saturday! G'day. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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knocking off the tools of empire was so much better when humphrey bogart waxed the nazi at the casablanca airport.
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Wow! Did you ever miss the point of that movie. |
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spliff

Joined: 19 Jan 2004 Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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I say "bring it on"
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agentX
Joined: 12 Oct 2007 Location: Jeolla province
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 10:33 pm Post subject: Re: should films advocating terrorism be banned? |
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| mistermasan wrote: |
no poll included!
should films glorifying/extolling/advocating terrorism be banned? |
Well, it depends on the country.
The US doesn't really have a big terrorism problem- unless you count roves of suburbanites who get upset and shoot up a place. Or abortion clinic bombers. Or church/mosque/synagogue torchers.
Maybe a pro-terrorism film ban would be more appropriate in a place like Germany or Saudi Arabia. But remember; any time a gov or org bans something, it increases the interest in that thing by 5-fold.
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... or better yet, get off your perch and enjoy a beautiful Saturday! |
Best thing I've heard all day! To the b-ball court! |
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cbclark4

Joined: 20 Aug 2006 Location: Masan
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Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 1:18 am Post subject: |
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Let's not forget the Sixties and Seventies, domestic terrorism is not new.
16 February 1970 � A bomb is detonated at the Golden Gate Park branch of the San Francisco Police Department, killing one officer and injuring a number of other policemen. No organization claims credit for either bombing.
March, 1970 � Several underground WUO members become federal fugitives when they unlawfully flee to avoid prosecution; warrants are issued in connection with their failure to appear for trial in Chicago.
6 March 1970 � 34 sticks of dynamite are discovered in the 13th Police District of the Detroit, Michigan police bombing. During February and early March, 1970, members of the WUO, led by Bill Ayers, are reported to be in Detroit, during that period, for the purpose of bombing a police facility.
6 March 1970 � Another group blows themselves up when their "bomb factory" located in New York's Greenwich Village accidentally explodes. WUO members Theodore Gold, Diana Oughton, and Terry Robbins die in this accident. The bomb was intended to be planted at a non-commissioned officer's dance at Fort Dix, New Jersey. The bomb was packed with nails to inflict maximum casualties upon detonation.
10 May 1970 � The National Guard Association building in Washington, D.C. was bombed to protest the National Guard killings of four students at Kent State in Ohio.
9 June 1970 - The New York City Police headquarters is bombed by Jane Alpert and others in response to what Weathermen call "police repression."
27 July 1970 - The Presidio army base in San Francisco is bombed to mark the 11th anniversary of the Cuban Revolution. [NYT, 7/27/70]
8 October 1970 - Bombing of Marin County courthouse in retaliation for the killing of Jonathan Jackson, William Christmas, and James McClain. [NYT, 8/10/70]
10 October 1970 - A Queens traffic-court building is bombed to express support for the New York prison riots. [NYT, 10/10/70, p. 12]
14 October 1970 - The Harvard Center for International Affairs is bombed to protest the war in Vietnam. [NYT, 10/14/70, p. 30]
1 March 1971 - The US Capitol is bombed to protest the invasion of Laos.
17 September 1971 - The New York Department of Corrections in Albany, New York is bombed to protest the killing of 29 inmates at Attica State Penitentiary. [NYT, 9/18/71]
15 October 1971 - The bombing of William Bundy's office in the MIT research center. [NYT, 10/16/71]
19 May 1972 - Bombing of The Pentagon in retaliation for the new U.S. bombing raid in Hanoi. [NYT, 5/19/72]
18 May 1973 - The bombing of the 103rd Police Precinct in New York in response to the killing of 10-year-old black youth Clifford Glover by police.
28 September 1973 - The ITT headquarters in New York and Rome, Italy are bombed in response to ITT's alleged role in the Chilean coup earlier that month. [NYT, 9/28/73]
6 March 1974 - Bombing of the Dept. of Health, Education and Welfare offices in San Francisco to protest alleged sterilization of poor women. In the accompanying communiqu�, the Women�s Brigade argues for "the need for women to take control of daycare, healthcare, birth control and other aspects of women's daily lives."
31 May 1974 - The Office of the California Attorney General is bombed in response to the killing of six members of the Symbionese Liberation Army.
17 June 1974 - Gulf Oil's Pittsburgh headquarters is bombed to protest its actions in Angola, Vietnam, and elsewhere.
11 September 1974 � Bombing of Anaconda Corporation (part of the Rockefeller Corporation) in retribution for Anaconda�s alleged involvement in the Chilean coup the previous year.
29 January 1975 - Bombing of the State Department in response to escalation in Vietnam. (AP. "State Department Rattled by Blast," The Daily Times-News, January 29 1975, p.1)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weatherman_%28organization%29#Chronology_of_events |
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yawarakaijin
Joined: 08 Aug 2006
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Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 8:35 am Post subject: |
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| cbclark4 wrote: |
Let's not forget the Sixties and Seventies, domestic terrorism is not new.
16 February 1970 � A bomb is detonated at the Golden Gate Park branch of the San Francisco Police Department, killing one officer and injuring a number of other policemen. No organization claims credit for either bombing.
March, 1970 � Several underground WUO members become federal fugitives when they unlawfully flee to avoid prosecution; warrants are issued in connection with their failure to appear for trial in Chicago.
6 March 1970 � 34 sticks of dynamite are discovered in the 13th Police District of the Detroit, Michigan police bombing. During February and early March, 1970, members of the WUO, led by Bill Ayers, are reported to be in Detroit, during that period, for the purpose of bombing a police facility.
6 March 1970 � Another group blows themselves up when their "bomb factory" located in New York's Greenwich Village accidentally explodes. WUO members Theodore Gold, Diana Oughton, and Terry Robbins die in this accident. The bomb was intended to be planted at a non-commissioned officer's dance at Fort Dix, New Jersey. The bomb was packed with nails to inflict maximum casualties upon detonation.
10 May 1970 � The National Guard Association building in Washington, D.C. was bombed to protest the National Guard killings of four students at Kent State in Ohio.
9 June 1970 - The New York City Police headquarters is bombed by Jane Alpert and others in response to what Weathermen call "police repression."
27 July 1970 - The Presidio army base in San Francisco is bombed to mark the 11th anniversary of the Cuban Revolution. [NYT, 7/27/70]
8 October 1970 - Bombing of Marin County courthouse in retaliation for the killing of Jonathan Jackson, William Christmas, and James McClain. [NYT, 8/10/70]
10 October 1970 - A Queens traffic-court building is bombed to express support for the New York prison riots. [NYT, 10/10/70, p. 12]
14 October 1970 - The Harvard Center for International Affairs is bombed to protest the war in Vietnam. [NYT, 10/14/70, p. 30]
1 March 1971 - The US Capitol is bombed to protest the invasion of Laos.
17 September 1971 - The New York Department of Corrections in Albany, New York is bombed to protest the killing of 29 inmates at Attica State Penitentiary. [NYT, 9/18/71]
15 October 1971 - The bombing of William Bundy's office in the MIT research center. [NYT, 10/16/71]
19 May 1972 - Bombing of The Pentagon in retaliation for the new U.S. bombing raid in Hanoi. [NYT, 5/19/72]
18 May 1973 - The bombing of the 103rd Police Precinct in New York in response to the killing of 10-year-old black youth Clifford Glover by police.
28 September 1973 - The ITT headquarters in New York and Rome, Italy are bombed in response to ITT's alleged role in the Chilean coup earlier that month. [NYT, 9/28/73]
6 March 1974 - Bombing of the Dept. of Health, Education and Welfare offices in San Francisco to protest alleged sterilization of poor women. In the accompanying communiqu�, the Women�s Brigade argues for "the need for women to take control of daycare, healthcare, birth control and other aspects of women's daily lives."
31 May 1974 - The Office of the California Attorney General is bombed in response to the killing of six members of the Symbionese Liberation Army.
17 June 1974 - Gulf Oil's Pittsburgh headquarters is bombed to protest its actions in Angola, Vietnam, and elsewhere.
11 September 1974 � Bombing of Anaconda Corporation (part of the Rockefeller Corporation) in retribution for Anaconda�s alleged involvement in the Chilean coup the previous year.
29 January 1975 - Bombing of the State Department in response to escalation in Vietnam. (AP. "State Department Rattled by Blast," The Daily Times-News, January 29 1975, p.1)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weatherman_%28organization%29#Chronology_of_events |
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