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cheeseface
Joined: 13 Jan 2008
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 Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 1:42 pm Post subject: 1 in 100 US citizens is a criminal |
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Astonishing new figures from the Pew Center have revealed that more than1% of the US adult population is in jail, while one in nine black men between 20 and 34 is also in jail.Compared with the UK, America has proportionally five times as many people in jail.
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lastat06513
Joined: 18 Mar 2003
Location: Sensus amo Caesar , etiamnunc victus amo uni plebian
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| Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Then if you count people with prior felony records, convictions and even misdemeanor charges (including DUI and traffick tickets) and prior stints in jail, that figure shoots up considerably higher.... |
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muss8813
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komerican
Joined: 17 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 4:03 pm Post subject: Re: 1 in 100 US citizens is a criminal |
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| cheeseface wrote: |
Astonishing new figures from the Pew Center have revealed that more than1% of the US adult population is in jail, while one in nine black men between 20 and 34 is also in jail.Compared with the UK, America has proportionally five times as many people in jail.
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The West Sparkling! LOL.
I�ve posted those numbers for Blacks before. Also, 65 million Americans don't have bank accounts!
This is why I always laugh when westerners post about Koreans spitting or cutting in line.
Westerners should stop committing felonies and then talk to Koreans about cutting in line. Getting on your soap box and pointing fingers at Koreans about bumping into people when there are entire blocks in cities in the West, France, London, New York, Los Angeles, etc., where people can't even walk let alone bump into people is of course another typical example of westerners speaking with their cultural blinders on. |
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mistermasan
Joined: 20 Sep 2007
Location: 10+ yrs on Dave's ESL cafe
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| Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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we are all criminals. some get caught.
equally scary is how prevalent "police checks" are back home. one of my cousins is a personnel specialist/"head hunter" and relates that police checks are standard in hooking up employers with prospective hires. these days even a years old alcohol possession is enough to disqualifiy one from getting even the cruddiest of jobs. the same for credit checks. if you owe money and it has been reported by one of the agencies your odds of getting a job are greatly dimminished.
whatcha gonna do w/o a job? if you can't do one legally, your only choice is illegally...which leads to the criminal justice system, for-profit prisons and ever increasing taxes for those of us who haven been caught yet.
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GoldMember
Joined: 24 Oct 2006
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KoAmerican, heaps of Koreans engage in criminal behavior. The only difference is that in Korea, there is no real rule of law, so these people never get busted.
If laws were enforced, prisons here would be overflowing. If fines were levied, and actually collected, again the prison population would rise dramatically.
Also there are laws here designed specificaly to protect the scum in society.
That being said, the HUGE problem in the US is the prevelance of weapons.
I'm not American and I would'nt want to live in a place were every moron, wacko and crim and buy a weapon as easily as buying candy.
The average Korean has little respect for laws, but at least they don't have guns. Their weapon of choice is the elbow and SUV.
Just wait until North Korea collapses, huge amounts of semi automatic weapons hitting the streets.
No respect for law, pent up angry and frustrated citizens, and useless police plus cheap automatic weapons = DISASTER. |
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laogaiguk
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea
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| Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 6:26 pm Post subject: Re: 1 in 100 US citizens is a criminal |
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| komerican wrote: |
The West Sparkling! LOL.
I�ve posted those numbers for Blacks before. Also, 65 million Americans don't have bank accounts!
This is why I always laugh when westerners post about Koreans spitting or cutting in line.
Westerners should stop committing felonies and then talk to Koreans about cutting in line. Getting on your soap box and pointing fingers at Koreans about bumping into people when there are entire blocks in cities in the West, France, London, New York, Los Angeles, etc., where people can't even walk let alone bump into people is of course another typical example of westerners speaking with their cultural blinders on. |
America shows all of it's stats, Korea doesn't. More importantly, Korean cops do crap, and the courts actually force people to settle out of court for money instead of actually trying (sp?) someone and punishing them.
When you are not comparing America to Korea you are comparing Korea to America. Why not just talk about the one or the other on their own merits (or lack of them).
For the thread, that is not a good thing. I don't really think anyone with any intelligence would think this is a good thing. |
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koala5
Joined: 21 Aug 2006
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| Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 6:59 pm Post subject: luckily |
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| Luckily Mr laogaiguk has such a high intelligence with his outstanding statements. I wonder what Ivy League school you came from laogaiguk. Your parents must be so proud of you |
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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 7:06 pm Post subject: Re: 1 in 100 US citizens is a criminal |
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| cheeseface wrote: |
Astonishing new figures from the Pew Center have revealed that more than1% of the US adult population is in jail, while one in nine black men between 20 and 34 is also in jail.Compared with the UK, America has proportionally five times as many people in jail.
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This is true, but the authorities in America are sometimes crazy and jail people for stupid things that Europeans don't bother jailing people for.
In Canada, there aren't so many busts with people having individual doses of marijuana. They go after those who traffic the stuff. The US also has that three strikes your out idea which England and Canada do not have. I think that is part of the problem. I am sure it is very bad in the US and something needs to be done about it. It can't be ignored. |
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markhan
Joined: 02 Aug 2006
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| Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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| GoldMember wrote: |
The average Korean has little respect for laws, but at least they don't have guns. Their weapon of choice is the elbow and SUV.
Just wait until North Korea collapses, huge amounts of semi automatic weapons hitting the streets.
No respect for law, pent up angry and frustrated citizens, and useless police plus cheap automatic weapons = DISASTER. |
Another Goldmember's awesome insight!
Okay let's be serious and dissect his argument.
Does he know something about North Korea that we don't know about?
How would collapse of N. Korea affect S. Korea in terms of semi weapons hitting the street? Its not as if S. Korea have zero guns. In fact they have tons of them. It is however, very, very strictly controlled. When a man attacked two military men and took off with their weaons there were nationwide hunt down. Hunt down was so intense that culprit actually surrender in less than a week.
Directly related to above is "Useless police." Trust me on this one. Korean police can be tough and very forceful if the situation required so. (After all, they are all alumni and top graduate of notorious Korean army)
Case in point is the "control of gun." Who do you control the gun in the first place?
It is just that I don't think Korean police will put too much emphasis on the troubles of 20's immature, foreign English teachers staying temporarily in Korea. Unless drug is involved. Then, trust me, there will be hell to pay!
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Every country has a different correctional philosophy. The US tends to believe that criminals should be punished rather than reformed. Gangs are larger and more powerful in prison. And they have that three strikes thing in a few states, where you can go away for life if you get arrested three times. |
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cheeseface
Joined: 13 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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| RACETRAITOR wrote: |
| Every country has a different correctional philosophy. The US tends to believe that criminals should be punished rather than reformed. Gangs are larger and more powerful in prison. And they have that three strikes thing in a few states, where you can go away for life if you get arrested three times. |
Yeah, but sending people to jail doesn't seem to be working as more people are going to jail every year!!!!!
God, I love the USA 
More people per head of population in jail than Russia or China |
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Pyongshin Sangja
Joined: 20 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Korean police can be tough and very forceful if the situation required so. |
Trust me, Korean traffic requires someone to do something and the Korean cops aren't doing anything. They are criminally responsible in the traffic-related deaths of thousands of people a year through their negligence and incompetence. They are a joke. Hell to pay? Whatever. They'll be the first to fry. |
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GoldMember
Joined: 24 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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Another Goldmember's awesome insight!
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Why thank you, yes I do have awesome insight.
Actually I'm not that smart, it's what happened in the former Soviet Union.
Crim:Hey starving North Korean soldier, wanna sell me that AK47 for $20?
Soldier: Make it 30 and I'll throw in an RPG
Crim: Deal
Or
Me: Hey starving North Korean officer, I'll swap you that out of date tank, for a case of Soju
Officer: Throw in a pack of Kimchi, and you've got yourself a deal.
So all of a sudden a cop whose too scared to give a ticket to an Adjoshi who is older than him is going to have the guts to tackle an AK47 wielding psycho. Yea right. |
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RJjr
Joined: 17 Aug 2006
Location: Turning on a Lamp
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| Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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The USA is indeed turning into something of a police state, but I worry about the Patriot Act eroding the last remaining American liberties more than I do how many murderers, rapists, and other real criminals there are in prison.
I just got done reading this thread on another website: http://goldismoney.info/forums/showthread.php?t=223179 and while this one pertains to the UK, the exact same thing can happen in America because of the Patriot Act. |
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