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eamo · Joined: 08 Mar 2003 Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.

Whether file-sharing is proved right or wrong, legal or illegal, I'm still gonna do it!

spliff · Joined: 19 Jan 2004 Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand

Knowledge is power, restricting file sharing is just one step in consolidating power away from the masses.

ddeubel · Joined: 20 Jul 2005

Spliff,

You are on to something but I think that is only the icing on this big iceberg. There are also (beyond entrenched issues of legal status, power and control) issues such as the very conservatism that pervades life, the human condition. Men seem to want to be slaves and people want to "have" and "own" and "protect" based on strong instinctual impulses and drives. We might also visit notions of phenomenology and epistemology.

A good presentation on the whole issue and about the future to be -- see/scroll to Larry Lessig's Ted talk. I give this 500 stars, not even for content but just on showing how a perfect presentation should unroll......

http://www.eflclassroom.com/tedtalks.htm
DD
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Ya-ta Boy · Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994

Czarjorge · Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 7:05 am Post subject:

It shouldn't be free, per se, but sending a message to the companies that buy and sell intellectual property is not a bad thing. It should be either a 50/50, or better for the artist, split. Look at what Radiohead did with "In Rainbows."

I'm more than willing to pay for intellectual property, but I am not willing to pay $15-20 for a cd that costs less than a quarter to produce, with music on it that cost $5k-25k to produce, and that sells a million copies. The per item cost on that level is 28 cents. The band sees little to no profit from the sale of an album, usually less than three dollars per unit. That's ridiculous, especially considering the amount of crap labels put out, which is why they need to make that much on albums that actually sell.

It's slightly better with books, but with comics even less good. And movies, don't get me started.

SuperHero · Joined: 10 Dec 2003 Location: Superhero Hideout

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ernie · Joined: 05 Aug 2006 Location: asdfghjk

1. if the people in the music industry think that selling an outdated product is a good business model, they shouldn't be in business

2. musicians make little (if anything) from album sales; they make most of their money from concert tickets and merch... radiohead made more money with their 'pay-what-you-can' internet model than they would have made selling those albums in stores!

3. mp3s can be manufactured, distributed, and replaced for free, create zero waste and require no shipping... it is INFINITELY more efficient than the CD model

4. copying music is not stealing because when you steal something, the victim is deprived of what they once had... copying music does no harm to the original owner

5. suing your customers is never a good idea

6. i would be flattered if people 'broke the law' to listen to music i created!

Demophobe · Joined: 17 May 2004

ISPs will begin filtering traffic, plain and simple. It will be interesting to see how things develop from there...wireless hijacking or piggybacking will have added allure. Renegade ISPs? Buy a fibre?

ddeubel · Joined: 20 Jul 2005

ernie,

You definitely get it! You must have a highly developed neocortex or just better wiring than them folks who want to sell what they can't control.

DD
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