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Giving free English lessons to nieces and nephews......

 
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just because



Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Location: Changwon - 4964

PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 10:43 pm    Post subject: Giving free English lessons to nieces and nephews...... Reply with quote

I have a 7 year-old niece and 9 year-old nephew who I am about to start teaching....

I am doing this for FREE 2 times a week because i am a nice person but my wife is not happy and thinks i should be doing it more.....she thinks minimum 3 and I feel she would try to push it everyday if I rolled over.

We never argue much in the long time we have been together but this seems to be a bit of a hot issue. I feel I am being used a little bit. I am happy to help but within reason. She thinks because it is family I should be helping them out more.....

So for people (as I am sure there are a few) in my situation what did you do???
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kiwiduncan



Joined: 18 Jun 2007
Location: New Zealand

PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you allow people to pressure you into teaching them it'll be counter-roductive and you might end up resenting it. A couple of hours of 'classroom' like study might be ok, but if it's convenient, how about just doing some stuff like checking out some temples, going to the park with them and stuff. The kids will get some exposure to English in a relaxed, non-classroom setting and you'll have a chance to get some fresh air and see the sights.

If you're based in Changwon still I've heard there are some great parks, reservoirs and such nearby.
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meangradin



Joined: 10 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

teaching relatives for free can be a pandoras box; soon you'll have the niece of the niece, who is cousin to the uncle of such and such wanting your low fee class for their kids. Although I don't teach for free, I do give a family dicsount, and let's just say that the definition of family has been stretched.
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Ryst Helmut



Joined: 26 Apr 2003
Location: In search of the elusive signature...

PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 11:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Giving free English lessons to nieces and nephews...... Reply with quote

just because wrote:
I have a 7 year-old niece and 9 year-old nephew who I am about to start teaching....

I am doing this for FREE 2 times a week because i am a nice person but my wife is not happy and thinks i should be doing it more.....she thinks minimum 3 and I feel she would try to push it everyday if I rolled over.

We never argue much in the long time we have been together but this seems to be a bit of a hot issue. I feel I am being used a little bit. I am happy to help but within reason. She thinks because it is family I should be helping them out more.....

So for people (as I am sure there are a few) in my situation what did you do???


We moved to another province....ok, that wasn't the reason but it worked. If you are unwilling to 'let' them take a mile then you have 3 options to keep them away:

Get busy. I'm at 9 hours a week with 5 months vacation...not that easy to say "I'm too busy to teach my relatives," but it is doable. Not many people are that rude to ask you to stop doing X (especially if you are making money doing it) to teach their kid(s) for free.

Teach in such a way that they do not want you to teach more or any longer. Mounds of homework could do the trick.

Claim that you don't work with/for relatives (just as you wouldn't loan money to relatives either)...because you feel that more harm than good could come from it (as you are already finding out).

We don't teach any relatives, but we do offer advice regarding their English education.

When my wife and I were living Stateside we frequently got requests to house our relatives' children during vacations (and even to go to school there for 1 year). We had a hard time dodging that issue.

Good luck!

!shoosh,

Ryst
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Passions



Joined: 31 May 2006

PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tell her that you are a law-abiding citizen and that includes no illegal tutoring lessons for free.



Expect to sleep on the coach for the next few weeks.
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flakfizer



Joined: 12 Nov 2004
Location: scaling the Cliffs of Insanity with a frayed rope.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't do it if you don't want to. Your wife should support your decision. Once a person gets married, their primary loyalty is to their new family, not their old one. I think free lessons twice a week is generous. It's almost like paying their English hagwon fee for them each month. It may also depend on the relationship. Are they just relatives or are you really close with them?
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 1:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of my wife's cousins suggested it,and it was my wife who flat out told them no.

She wants me makin' money Wink
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whatever



Joined: 11 Jun 2006
Location: Korea: More fun than jail.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 1:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

^^Yeah, that seems pretty rude of them to press for more, unless you happen to be very close with them.

What are the parents' professions? Do they comp some sort of service or goods for you? Maybe give-and-take ought to be more of a factor...
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Kimchieluver



Joined: 02 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did it for the young ones for about six months. Then I just told them I needed my free time. They were totally understanding and bought me expensive gifts. Since then I have been asked to do conversation with my niece last winter before she started uni. It was a breeze and and refreshing. Anyways, they know that I can make money doing it for other people, so they don't ask. They respect my time.

The reason I don't do privates is because I respect my time. My wife likes me fully charged at home too and not having to clean up for family. (She really goes overboard on the cleaning).
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Whistleblower



Joined: 03 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 3:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Passions wrote:
Expect to sleep on the coach for the next few weeks.


Why on a coach?
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bondjimbond



Joined: 29 Dec 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 3:32 am    Post subject: Re: Giving free English lessons to nieces and nephews...... Reply with quote

Ryst Helmut wrote:


Get busy. I'm at 9 hours a week with 5 months vacation...


How the crap did you get that gig?
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kprrok



Joined: 06 Apr 2004
Location: KC

PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 4:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm gonna tutor my niece when she gets older, and it'll be cheap for my wife's sister, but that's because I'm a nice guy and we're pretty close. It won't be hard-core studying, but it'll be good for her.

I'll help other family members, and possible close friends of my family, but that's because they could then give me other business.

KPRROK
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Temporary



Joined: 13 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 4:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You do it, you will resent it.
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Hanson



Joined: 20 Oct 2004

PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 5:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This was a sore point between my wife and I. Like someone else said, once you give them an inch, they'll take a mile. I also don't teach my wife's relatives, although my wife wanted me to.

I compare it to any other profession. Would you expect your plumber uncle to fix your plumbing for free? Would you expect your real estate aunt to wave her fee and work for free? Would your science teacher cousin teach your kid extra science on the side for free?

My answer was "Hell no! I'd feel terrible not paying a relative for work", but my wife kinda said "yeah, if it's family, you should do it for free." In the end, I just "put my foot down" on this issue and compromised on another issue that my wife really held to. Eventually, she saw that this was an important issue for me, and understood my take on it. My wife had to get creative to shoo them away.

This was a while ago, and I haven't heard about it again since. There has to be a separation between family and work. I could just see myself becoming "English Teacher Hanson" at family get-togethers over Chuseok and whatnot... No thanks!
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