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endo



Joined: 14 Mar 2004
Location: Seoul...my home

PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 2:55 am    Post subject: Let's Compare Salaries & Work Conditions! Reply with quote

This thread is designed to comapre the various aspects of ESL in Korea between teachers on this forum. Below is a simple chart that you can copy and paste in order to present your qualifications and benifits.


Nationality:

Education:

Years of experience in ESL:

Age:

Sex:



Job Description:

Place of Employment:

City of Employment:



Age of Students:

Classroom size (maximum):

Number of foreign co-teachers:



Monthly Salary:

Number of paid vacation:

Any extra benifits:



Is flight to and from home paid for:

Medical Insurance:

Do you contribute to the pension plan?:




Work hours per week:

Teaching hours per week:

Do you teach intensives?


Size of appartment:

Length of commute to work:

Bills total per month:

Saving per month:


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endo



Joined: 14 Mar 2004
Location: Seoul...my home

PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 3:13 am    Post subject: Re: Let's Compare! Reply with quote

Quote:


Nationality:
Canadian

Education:
Bachelor of Arts, TESOL Certificate

Years of experience in ESL:
3 years, 4 months

Age:
28

Sex:
male



Job Description:
English teacher/management

Place of Employment:
hagwon

City of Employment:
Seoul



Age of Students:
betwwen 7 and 11 years old

Classroom size (maximum):
12 students max

Number of foreign co-teachers:
five



Monthly Salary:
2.6 million

Number of paid vacation:
15

Any extra benifits:
I have recieved a few Lotte gift certificats here and there, small Chusok/Christmas/Lunar gifts, occiasional dinners, and yearly staff excursions to the lake.



Is flight to and from home paid for:
yes

Medical Insurance:
I pay half and recieve the insurance card

Do you contribute to the pension plan?:
yes, and employer matches it




Work hours per week:
42 hours

Teaching hours per week:
varries, but right now 14 hours

Do you teach intensives?
Yes, every January and August.



Size of appartment:
large loft

Length of commute to work:
I live in the same building I work so only about 30 seconds.

Bills total per month:
about 250,000 won

Saving per month:
Between 1.6 and 1.8 million

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spliff



Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand

PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 3:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really, what's the point.
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robot



Joined: 07 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 4:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you serious?
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endo



Joined: 14 Mar 2004
Location: Seoul...my home

PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 5:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm totally serious. I'd like to see what other people are doing and earning.

It will make looking for another job easier in terms of putting a value to yourself in regards to other posters answers.



We can't form a bloody union in this country. So the best and only way to determine ideal work conditions is unfortunately on an internet message board.


I realize some will not want to divulge personal information like this. And that's cool. But for others a thread like this could really help out.
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Homer
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 5:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have had good intentions with this thread endo but I would never post so much details about my work, pay and such.

Most of the people here are pretty decent but there is a hard core group of freaks who know nothing of decency and who would not bat an eyelash about using the information that would be posted to harrass a person.

It would be wise of you to edit the information you just posted.
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ChopChaeJoe



Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 5:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Man, korea is a weird place!
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agoodmouse



Joined: 20 Dec 2007
Location: Anyang

PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 5:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Asking a man how much he earns is like asking about his wife's bra size.
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Voyeur



Joined: 19 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 5:45 am    Post subject: Re: Let's Compare! Reply with quote

Nationality: Canadian

Education: 3 year BA

Years of experience in ESL: 4.5

Age: 35

Sex: Male



Job Description: full time teacher + teacher manager

Place of Employment: Won't Disclose

City of Employment: Won't Disclose



Age of Students: 8 to 17

Classroom size (maximum): 15

Number of foreign co-teachers: 12



Monthly Salary: 4.7 Million to 5.1 Million

Number of paid vacation: 0

Any extra benifits: None



Is flight to and from home paid for: No

Medical Insurance: No

Do you contribute to the pension plan?: No




Work hours per week: 5 prep hours + 5 managerial hours + 27 teaching hours (4.7 million) or 30 teaching hours (5.1 million) = 37 to 40 total hours / week

Teaching hours per week: 27 hours to 30 hours depending on term

Do you teach intensives? Yes


Size of appartment: not provided

Length of commute to work: 5 minute walk

Bills total per month: ~ 800,000 incl. apartment and fees, utilities, gas etc...

Saving per month:[/quote] Varies Wildly
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bejarano-korea



Joined: 13 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 5:57 am    Post subject: Re: Let's Compare! Reply with quote

Nationality: British

Education: BA (Hons) Linguistics/TEFL, University of Wales, Swansea

Years of experience in ESL: 4 months Laughing

Age: 35

Sex: Male



Job Description: Hagwon Monkey

Place of Employment: Castle Greyskull

City of Employment: I'm not sure but I can hear duelling banjoes... help!



Age of Students: 8-13

Classroom size (maximum): 10

Number of foreign co-teachers: none



Monthly Salary: 2.2 million won

Number of paid vacation: 10 days (ha!)

Any extra benifits: Not as far as I'm aware - Oh hang on, the boss gets us dinner on a few occasions and is a fair looker! The rest of the staff are very nice and civil!



Is flight to and from home paid for: Yes

Medical Insurance: I doubt it.

Do you contribute to the pension plan?: I do but it probably ends up in my directors pension plan.




Work hours per week: 30

Teaching hours per week: 25

Do you teach intensives? No


Size of appartment: Swing a rodent around by its tail and it would get brain damage and green mold on its head! Laughing

Length of commute to work: 10 minute walk

Bills total per month: around 70,000

Saving per month: 1.2-1.5 million per month.
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Mi Yum mi



Joined: 28 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 8:47 am    Post subject: Re: Let's Compare! Reply with quote

some lame poster wrote:


Nationality: The one with all the white people

Education: yes

Years of experience in ESL: 9

Age: 9 years older than before Korea.

Sex: no as much since i got married



Job Description: easy

Place of Employment: Some uni

City of Employment: like i'd tell you freaks



Age of Students: It seems their age and mental capacity is similar to the OP's

Classroom size (maximum): About 10mX10m

Number of foreign co-teachers: What's a co-teacher?



Monthly Salary: More than OP

Number of paid vacation: more than OP

Any extra benifits: Does getting head by the English department securtary count?



Is flight to and from home paid for: It's not a hogwon. Only they do that

Medical Insurance: The best you could probably get

Do you contribute to the pension plan?: yes




Work hours per week: less than op

Teaching hours per week: isn't this the same freakin question

Do you teach intensives? Sounds like hogwon talk to me.


Size of appartment: not as big as I'd like

Length of commute to work: about 200m

Bills total per month: More than OP

Saving per month:
More than OP


Comment. This is almost as lame as that A/S/L thread a while ago.
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Oreovictim



Joined: 23 Aug 2006

PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My first contract is over, but I'll answer, anyway.

Nationality: American

Education: four-year degree (English major), tech. degree: guitar building

Years of experience in ESL: 1 year, 1 month

Age: 34

Sex: M



Job Description: Hagwon punching bag

Place of Employment: I'd rather not say.

City of Employment: Cheongju



Age of Students: 6 - 15

Classroom size (maximum): the max is supposed to be 12, but I had one class with 19.

Number of foreign co-teachers: 2



Monthly Salary: 2,100,00

Number of paid vacation: can't remember

Any extra benifits: no



Is flight to and from home paid for: there, yes, but I got screwed for the way back and had to pay about $300.00 out of my own pocket.

Medical Insurance: no

Do you contribute to the pension plan?: no




Work hours per week: 30

Teaching hours per week: can't remember

Do you teach intensives? yep


Size of appartment: large but filthy and old

Length of commute to work: 5 minute walk

Bills total per month: maybe 200,000 won

Saving per month: about 1,100,000 maybe a little more
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endo



Joined: 14 Mar 2004
Location: Seoul...my home

PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 3:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Let's Compare! Reply with quote

Mi Yum mi wrote:



Comment. This is almost as lame as that A/S/L thread a while ago.



Yeah you're a funny guy and all, but why is this lame?


I think it's benificial. I mean I'm certainly not creating this thread to show off or anything.

I would just like to see what other posters do in order to better position myself during my next contract negotiation.


I understand that some people don't want to share personal info like this, but for other it would help.

Why can't some people see this?
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boyne11



Joined: 08 Jul 2007

PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nationality: American

Education: High School Graduate (But have 4 different fake degrees MA or above)

Years of experience in ESL: 10 years

Age: 69

Sex: Now male. sex change 5 years ago



Job Description: baby sitting. forced to act like a clown.

Place of Employment: public school

City of Employment: throughout Korea



Age of Students: 8-12

Classroom size (maximum): 50

Number of foreign co-teachers: 0



Monthly Salary: 1.8 million

Number of paid vacation: I feel like I'm on permanent vacation

Any extra benifits: Getting screwed on over-time, summer/winter/spring camps, teaching xenophobic Korean teachers, 2000 won lunch in school cafeteria, getting screwed on airfare and severance.


Is flight to and from home paid for: They will reimburse the airfare by wire transfer only after I've left Korea.

Medical Insurance: Yes

Do you contribute to the pension plan?: Yes




Work hours per week: 40

Teaching hours per week: 30

Do you teach intensives? No. Just listen and repeat.


Size of appartment: Yes. 3 pyong.

Length of commute to work: Total about 60-65 minutes. 15 minute by taxi to a bus station. 20 minutes by bus. 30 minutes on foot.

Bills total per month: Fixed deduction of 500K won every month for utilities and maintenance fee.

Saving per month: None. I have to tap into my social security retirement funds to cover living expenses.
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cruisemonkey



Joined: 04 Jul 2005
Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine's bigger tham yours. Shocked
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