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Tud Ferguson
Joined: 03 Dec 2006
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 Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 9:30 pm Post subject: Scabs doin privates for 15,000 |
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Saw this add around Gwangwhamun
English 15,000 won an hour
011 873 8652
I'm callin this person when I get to work and I'm gonna let them know what I think of their low ballin |
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crusher_of_heads
Joined: 23 Feb 2007
Location: kimbop and kimchi for kimberly!!!!
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| Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 9:34 pm Post subject: |
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kiwiboy, I am guessing this thread won't last long.
Nobody is doing privates for 15 000.
Privates are illegal. |
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Cheonmunka
Joined: 04 Jun 2004
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| Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 9:36 pm Post subject: |
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If he/she is a westerner you could call Immigration.
It certainly is scabby. Perhaps he/she is very hard up. If living costs are that hard might be good to send to Thailand or China where one can eat a good rat chop suey for less than a dollar.
Last edited by Cheonmunka on Sun Mar 09, 2008 9:39 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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PGF
Joined: 27 Nov 2006
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| Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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| maybe he/she has a large class or several classes. 15/hr with ten or more students isn't too shabby. Did it say one on one? |
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mistermasan
Joined: 20 Sep 2007
Location: 10+ yrs on Dave's ESL cafe
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| Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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| as organization/unionization of foreign teachers is illegal, we are all scabs. |
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nomad-ish
Joined: 08 Oct 2007
Location: On the bottom of the food chain
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| Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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a) if this is one on one, then the person probably isn't a westerner
b) if the person is a westerner, it's probably a class/group rate |
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Netz
Joined: 11 Oct 2004
Location: a parallel universe where people and places seem to be the exact opposite of "normal"
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| Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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Call immigration, what the &$#@.
It's no doubt illegal, and if they are legal, they won't have any problem with immigration talking to them. |
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agoodmouse
Joined: 20 Dec 2007
Location: Anyang
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| Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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The person could be an F visa holder. You can't rule that out. Sure, go ahead and call them if you like. It's your choice. People fail to realize that many foreigners (F2/F5) and overseas Koreans (F4) are here and can teach. Don't assume the person isn't an F-visa holder simply because of the hourly charge. The OP hasn't provided any information other than an hourly charge, a phone number, and the word English. That's all that's known to us. In Donald Rumsfeld's words: "Reports that say that something hasn't happened are always interesting to me, because as we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns -- the ones we don't know we don't know."
Please, if you do, call the person first before calling immigration, so you don't end up hassling someone exercising his/her legal rights. |
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nomad-ish
Joined: 08 Oct 2007
Location: On the bottom of the food chain
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| Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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| agoodmouse wrote: |
The person could be an F visa holder. You can't rule that out. Sure, go ahead and call them if you like. It's your choice. People fail to realize that many foreigners (F2/F5) and overseas Koreans (F4) are here and can teach. Don't assume the person isn't an F-visa holder simply because of the hourly charge.
Please, if you do, call the person first before calling immigration, so you don't end up hassling someone exercising his/her legal rights. |
do you really think any F visa holder would ask for so low a fee?  |
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Ilsanman
Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea
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| Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Koreans often work for 15-20,000. Native speakers, no. |
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agoodmouse
Joined: 20 Dec 2007
Location: Anyang
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| Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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| nomad-ish wrote: |
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The person could be an F visa holder. You can't rule that out. Sure, go ahead and call them if you like. It's your choice. People fail to realize that many foreigners (F2/F5) and overseas Koreans (F4) are here and can teach. Don't assume the person isn't an F-visa holder simply because of the hourly charge.
Please, if you do, call the person first before calling immigration, so you don't end up hassling someone exercising his/her legal rights. |
do you really think any F visa holder would ask for so low a fee? |
There are other message threads speaking of caps provincial governments put on tutors. Ostensibly, tutors are supposed to make even lower than this amount per hour; Talk of the real numbers are elsewhere on this message board, especially as regards F2 visa holders. |
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Netz
Joined: 11 Oct 2004
Location: a parallel universe where people and places seem to be the exact opposite of "normal"
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| Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 11:31 pm Post subject: |
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| agoodmouse wrote: |
The person could be an F visa holder. You can't rule that out. Sure, go ahead and call them if you like. It's your choice. People fail to realize that many foreigners (F2/F5) and overseas Koreans (F4) are here and can teach. Don't assume the person isn't an F-visa holder simply because of the hourly charge. The OP hasn't provided any information other than an hourly charge, a phone number, and the word English. That's all that's known to us. In Donald Rumsfeld's words: "Reports that say that something hasn't happened are always interesting to me, because as we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns -- the ones we don't know we don't know."
Please, if you do, call the person first before calling immigration, so you don't end up hassling someone exercising his/her legal rights. |
If they are an F visa holder, they'll have no "issues" with Immigration, if they've also registered for a tutor license, and pay thier taxes.
If people are working legally, it's not a "hassle" to prove it, it's thier "responsibility" to do so.
I'd be more than happy to "produce" my documents, if I were asked to do so, that's why I procured them all in the first place. |
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agoodmouse
Joined: 20 Dec 2007
Location: Anyang
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| Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 11:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Netz wrote: |
If people are working legally, it's not a "hassle" to prove it, it's thier "responsibility" to do so. |
Hey, Netz, post your papers 
But, really. Let me explain how I see what is known of this situation.
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| If they are an F visa holder, they'll have no "issues" with Immigration, if they've also registered for a tutor license, and pay thier taxes. |
Sure, but I don't personally accost other foreigners into showing me their papers and ARC cards each time I see a foreigner on the street. There are plenty of illegal -- dare I say, probably some fellow foreigners -- people in Korea, but I don't require this of them when I bump into them. Likewise, if they're legally in the country, they would likely be able to produce such residency papers, but I just don't do that. I would do something, though, if things smelled fishy.
This situation is analogous to U.S. immigration and its concomitant tensions among legal and some who appear to be illegal (and might in fact be) persons within the U.S.'s border. Hispanics in Arizona and elsewhere in the U.S., I've read, have been accosted/hassled by officials and even locals who think anyone Mexican-looking is likely illegal.
Again, we don't know a lot of the information in this case. The OP, if he is so inclined, should give the person a call, apprise him of the consequences regarding tutoring and immigration (as foreigners, we don't really want illegal tutoring to hit the news by one of our own), and ask him if he'll divulge his visa status. If he doesn't divulge it, then, sure, go ahead and phone immigration, because everything will be fine. It's okay to do just that, but I'd do it all, as should anyone willing to make inquiries, in the order I stated. Of course, he could lie to you about his visa status, so in any case a call to immigration would, in the minds of some, be in order. In fact, many foreigner-looking people (who might actually be legal) on the street (I saw one today) don't carry, wouldn't show me, or might lie about, their ARC cards, so what should be done? |
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Skippy
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Daejeon
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Are not Scabs non-unionized workers doing the job of unionized workers.
Did I miss something in the last few months. Did we English teachers get unionized.
What bother is it to you. I can teach privates (illegally) for any amount I can get or want to charge. Sorry Tud is there a set charge for Privates? Welcome to the free market. People can charge what they want for their services. I can charge 10,00 won to my nieghbor because it is easy to get there. But I might charge 40,000 to teach some Uni Student half way across a city. Wow I can set my own price.
Next you will be wanting to have Mormon Missionaries shot for teaching free but religiously filled free English classes. Then we will go after the people who do language exchange. Next is those horrible people that speak to Koreans for free. Damn I should charge that pretty Korean girl for talking to me. |
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0916
Joined: 26 Dec 2007
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| Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 12:00 am Post subject: |
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| Why the hell would anyone want to shop someone to immigration? Unbelievable... |
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