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stevemcgarrett
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 Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 9:08 pm Post subject: HILLARY GIVES PROOF OF HER FOREIGN POLICY PROWESS |
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Senator Clinton has finally addressed by way of specific example just how she feels more qualified than Senator Obama to conduct American foreign policy:
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Asked what foreign policy crisis had tested her and showed she possesses the skills to be commander in chief, she cited her advocacy for the peace process in Northern Ireland and her speech at the 1995 U.S. Conference on Women in Beijing defending human rights.
"To this day, I will have people stop me or come to see me who talk about that speech and what it meant to them and how it set sort of a framework for American foreign policy," she said.
Former officials in her husband's administration who were active in foreign policy have said Clinton is taking credit for accomplishing more than some recall during those years. |
Yes, that lingering sectarian srife in Northern Ireland has huge ramifications for our foreign policy worldwide, Hillary, and I'm sure your role was even more pivotal than Tony Blair's. Good show, old girl.
And yes, people do still tell you how inspired they were by your speech in Beijing. Lots of people like to ingratitate themselves to you. NEWS FLASH: many women in developing countries, including China, took umbrage with her remarks. Several Chinese female academics have published in English about the Orientalist views of the former First Lady and Prof. Tania Barlow of the Univ. of Washington, herself a feminist but also a China scholar, has called Hillary's remarks there ethnocentric and uninformed. So would that be a bit of Ugly American Syndrome you displayed, Hill? Some of that White Western women know what's best for women the world over?
And what' this--accusations that you give yourself more credit than is your due for what happened in Bill's terms in office? Naw, can't imagine you'd be self-aggrandizing, because you only want to Serve the People. |
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Milwaukiedave
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| Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 12:23 am Post subject: |
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| Maybe now some will start to question what she says instead of taking it as a fact. |
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stevemcgarrett
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| Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 1:09 am Post subject: |
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In a supreme paradox, if not outright double-standard, Hillary lacks the very credentials she accuses Obama of lacking.
I don't get it; it's counterintuitive for the Dems to bicker over an issue that will only become a gift horse to McCain. I can only explain it this way: Hillary doesn't care as much about the negative fallout in the leadup to the general election as she does about winning the nomination at all costs.
If you, MD, or anyone else has a better explanation, I'm all eyes. |
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Milwaukiedave
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| Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 1:53 am Post subject: |
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Steve,
I agree with you, but sadly the people supporting Clinton don't. I've heard it often repeated that what is going is good for the party and they deny that any of this will affect the GE. The truth is that Clinton is literally writing the commercials for the RNC for them. What is funny is that these same people are clammering for a so called "unity ticket" with Obama as the VP nominee. If they want unity, they are going about it the wrong way. |
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Captain Corea
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| Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 6:02 am Post subject: Re: HILLARY GIVES PROOF OF HER FOREIGN POLICY PROWESS |
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| stevemcgarrett wrote: |
Senator Clinton has finally addressed by way of specific example just how she feels more qualified than Senator Obama to conduct American foreign policy:
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Asked what foreign policy crisis had tested her and showed she possesses the skills to be commander in chief, she cited her advocacy for the peace process in Northern Ireland and her speech at the 1995 U.S. Conference on Women in Beijing defending human rights.
"To this day, I will have people stop me or come to see me who talk about that speech and what it meant to them and how it set sort of a framework for American foreign policy," she said.
Former officials in her husband's administration who were active in foreign policy have said Clinton is taking credit for accomplishing more than some recall during those years. |
Yes, that lingering sectarian srife in Northern Ireland has huge ramifications for our foreign policy worldwide, Hillary, and I'm sure your role was even more pivotal than Tony Blair's. Good show, old girl.
And yes, people do still tell you how inspired they were by your speech in Beijing. Lots of people like to ingratitate themselves to you. NEWS FLASH: many women in developing countries, including China, took umbrage with her remarks. Several Chinese female academics have published in English about the Orientalist views of the former First Lady and Prof. Tania Barlow of the Univ. of Washington, herself a feminist but also a China scholar, has called Hillary's remarks there ethnocentric and uninformed. So would that be a bit of Ugly American Syndrome you displayed, Hill? Some of that White Western women know what's best for women the world over?
And what' this--accusations that you give yourself more credit than is your due for what happened in Bill's terms in office? Naw, can't imagine you'd be self-aggrandizing, because you only want to Serve the People. |
Glad you posted this.
Truth be told, I'm really confused as to what her experience actually is.
What has she done that has prepared her for that call on the red phone at 2:00 am? (unless of course it's Bill calling to say he'll be late again) |
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Kuros
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| Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:22 am Post subject: |
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| Milwaukiedave wrote: |
| I've heard it often repeated that what is going is good for the party and they deny that any of this will affect the GE. |
Only Obambites think the continuing primary is bad for the party.
The idea that the RNC can't come up with their own attacks on Obama is pretty purile.
Obambites just believe that their candidate should be anointed. As Czarjorge said, and I paraphrase, "Why can't we just put Obama in the White House and save everyone the trouble?" |
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Milwaukiedave
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| Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Kuros wrote: |
| Milwaukiedave wrote: |
| I've heard it often repeated that what is going is good for the party and they deny that any of this will affect the GE. |
Only Obambites think the continuing primary is bad for the party.
The idea that the RNC can't come up with their own attacks on Obama is pretty purile.
Obambites just believe that their candidate should be anointed. As Czarjorge said, and I paraphrase, "Why can't we just put Obama in the White House and save everyone the trouble?" |
I have no problem with it playing out until June, but what happens after that? As of right now, it appears there will not be another vote in Florida and there may be a revote in Michigan if they can get their act together and set up up before the June 7th deadline.
Clinton has clearly said she will take this to a floor fight at the convention. There's a big difference between a person acknowledging the other person has won when all the contests are over in June and dragging it out until the end of August (which is when the convention takes place). I believe she will continue to make the claim even after the June primaries (illegitimately) that she is the nominee. If you believe she will do what she says she will, then essentially the Democrats will have two months to campaign as the nominee.
What bothers me is those who talk out of both sides of the mouth. You can't attack like a mad rabid dog and expect party unity at the same time. Sorry it just doesn't work that way. |
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Kuros
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| Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 4:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Milwaukiedave wrote: |
What bothers me is those who talk out of both sides of the mouth. You can't attack like a mad rabid dog and expect party unity at the same time. Sorry it just doesn't work that way. |
Who's attacking like a rabid dog? Obama's running the 'chastity belt' campaign. And since he's a virgin to just about everything political, it works for him. But Clinton gets some good swipes in. Obama hasn't resorted to the victim card, but his campaign almost have.
His message is: bring it 'on. Why are you so off-message? |
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Milwaukiedave
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| Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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As you've said before, I am not the campaign, the candidate or the campaign manager. I do think Clinton's campaign is a very dirty one and she and her surrogates have said some pretty nasty things. It's one thing to call it mild, but to call them swipes is just minimizing what she has said. You seem to do that a lot.
By the way, are you even going to respond to the rest of what I said? |
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Kuros
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| Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Milwaukiedave wrote: |
By the way, are you even going to respond to the rest of what I said? |
Joo often addresses each person's every point. This makes the thread long, hard, and unentertaining for newcomers to read. |
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Milwaukiedave
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| Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Ok, the next time you claim I don't want to see this through until June, I'll be glad to point back to your lack of a response. |
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