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cuckoo for kimchi
Joined: 27 Jul 2006
Location: somewhere lost in time and space...or korea
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IncognitoHFX
Joined: 06 May 2007
Location: Yeongtong, Suwon
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 Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 9:27 am Post subject: Re: Just what we need late night hagwons...... |
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| I'd work the graveyard shift. Less babies, more older students. |
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khyber
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Compunction Junction
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| Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 11:39 am Post subject: |
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What a strange article:
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Civic groups, parents and many experts immediately expressed opposition to the move. They said the ``deregulation'' would force students to study all night long and harm their health as well as pose a threat to the public educational system.
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I don't think anyone is forcing those kids to study there except stupid parents. It is beyond common knowledge that restful nights of sleep accomplish more in learning. But don't tell hagwon supporters that. |
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IncognitoHFX
Joined: 06 May 2007
Location: Yeongtong, Suwon
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| Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 12:25 pm Post subject: |
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| khyber wrote: |
What a strange article:
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Civic groups, parents and many experts immediately expressed opposition to the move. They said the ``deregulation'' would force students to study all night long and harm their health as well as pose a threat to the public educational system.
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I don't think anyone is forcing those kids to study there except stupid parents. It is beyond common knowledge that restful nights of sleep accomplish more in learning. But don't tell hagwon supporters that. |
I pried a lot of information out of my younger classes, just out of curiosity.
I asked a couple of my nine year old classes how much time they spend studying and how much time they spend at hagwons (we read a story about sleep).
Most of them told me between 4-6 hours a night of sleep, and some were at hagwons until 10:00pm or with private tutors (piano teachers, math tutors et cetera) until much later. I don't know what it is with my school, but from what I hear kids get pushed a lot harder than at other places.
We're giving nine year olds fifteen pages of homework a day (combined, at the request of their mothers) and thirty vocabulary words--and we're just one school. If all the schools are doing this and the kids are still getting their homework done, I don't know how they find time to sleep (especially considering their parents aren't even around a lot of the time to help them with it).
A nine year old spending twelve hours a day in school and three-five hours a day on homework is child abuse, which another reason I don't want to teach baby classes next contract. |
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cuckoo for kimchi
Joined: 27 Jul 2006
Location: somewhere lost in time and space...or korea
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| Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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| I've had kids (grade 5,6, middle school 1) that have said they've been up until 2 in the morning doing homework...and then get up at 6 to go to school.... |
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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Someplace you'd rather be.
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| Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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This is all about money, and has nothing to do with education.
If a hagwon wants to make more money, they have to teach the students for more hours. There are strict government limits on how much each hagwon can charge, and what you can charge is based on how many hours you teach the students. Upping the number of hours increases earnings potential.
I wouldn't doubt that some group of politicians are getting bribes for this. |
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skeeterses
Joined: 25 Oct 2007
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| Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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The fact that something like this is even up for debate just shows that much of the education in South Korea is not really a "free market", but instead is a system of coersion on young people. If the Government really wanted to "de-regulate" education, one of the first thigns they could do is make English classes and English tests optional instead of mandatory. How can LeeMyeongBak talk about de-regulating education when at the same time he wants all the classes to be taught in English?
The fact that the ESL market is saturated is one reason why I am studying Korean and wanting to find another line of work in SK. I like teaching English but there's way too many hagwons and the kids are spending way too much time in the classroom. |
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indytrucks
Joined: 09 Apr 2003
Location: The Shelf
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| Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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| IncognitoHFX wrote: |
| Most of them told me between 4-6 hours a night of sleep, and some were at hagwons until 10:00pm or with private tutors (piano teachers, math tutors et cetera) until much later. I don't know what it is with my school, but from what I hear kids get pushed a lot harder than at other places. |
And in other news, the sun will rise in the east tomorrow.
Groundbreaking stuff, this thread. |
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