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Is anyone currently going to Grad school and teaching

 
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ImInKoreaAintI



Joined: 12 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 12:26 am    Post subject: Is anyone currently going to Grad school and teaching Reply with quote

Is anyone out there going to Grad School and teaching English at the same time? I plan on doing this next year, as soon as my current contract is up. I want to ask those people.

How is it handling the coursework and the teaching?
Do schedules conflict smuch? Did you have to make special arrangements. What's a typical day like for you.
Do you live in the apartment furnished by your contract or did you make your own arrangments (ie campus apartment)?
Do you work at a hagwon, public school or somewhere else?

Any other suggestions that you may want to add.


Thanks. Your help is greatly appreciated. [/list][/list]
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ImInKoreaAintI



Joined: 12 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess not too many people go to school and work at the same time on this board. It may be a good idea, if you dont have an MA or higher.
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PRagic



Joined: 24 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have known several people who have taught and done their MA at the same time. All the people I have known who have done this have worked at lower-tiered universities and knocked out their degrees on-line.

I highly doubt it would be possible given a hakwon work load.

If you have an F series visa, you could work part time and concentrate on your coursework. Still, getting university teaching experience and an MA is a good combo to shoot for.

Good luck to you. Always good to hear of someone going for it.
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nomad-ish



Joined: 08 Oct 2007
Location: On the bottom of the food chain

PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ImInKoreaAintI wrote:
I guess not too many people go to school and work at the same time on this board. It may be a good idea, if you dont have an MA or higher.


i'm studying p/t online through a real, in-the-flesh university. if you decide to go the online route, make sure you check that the school's legit (and the rewarded MA/MSc is accepted in your home country)
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Spongebob Squarepants



Joined: 19 Oct 2007
Location: You wanna see my caring face?, ROK

PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I teach full-time (a day job) and I'm working on my MA AL-ELT part-time (aiming to finish by Jan. 2010).

My uni recommends 15-20 hrs of study a week, but with all the unpaid lesson planning I have to do at work, I end up getting home at 7 or 8 p.m. and by then I have just enough energy to put in 2 hours of quality study time. Then of course there are the weekends, I study around 6-7 hours over the weekend, so I get roughly 15-16 hours of study in a week.

The nasty thing is that since I'm so overworked (8 a.m. - 8 p.m. some days), by the time I get home I can't really concentrate and I don't feel like hitting the books for two hours. That's the biggest challenge, resisting the urge to sit down in front of the TV and veg out when I get home.

Still, it's a choice you make for yourself. Personally I'm willing to put in the time, and devote my limited free time to studying in order to move on up in the food chain. But it's a sacrifice. If you plan on doing it, you will have fewer nights out (a no brainer), less time with family and friends (my wife complains we don't spend enough time together anymore), and a whole hell of a lot less sleep.

Is it hard? Hell yeah! Is it worth it? Hell yeah!

Life isn't about the easiest (read 'laziest') way to do things, and there are no handouts. If you want something done you gotta go out and do it for yourself.
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nomad-ish



Joined: 08 Oct 2007
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

to the OP, maybe you should think about working at a public school. classes are cancelled here and there, you have lots of time in the office (or possibly off) during the students' vacation period, and you can be out of school by 4:30-5pm everyday. plus since at public schools you only work about 22hrs/wk, you won't feel completely exhausted at the end of the day when you have to go home and study.

i'm extremely happy that i decided to study for my MSc (i would've liked to do f/t on campus, but i didn't want to rack up more student loans... even if i were a TA as well). korea can be a very transitionary place for FTs, and it's nice to know you've got something you're working towards
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ImInKoreaAintI



Joined: 12 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for some of your wisdom guys, appreciate it.

but does anyone go to a graduate program in Korea, not online, and still have an english teaching job?

how do you juggle the two? do you work at a public school/hagwon/unviversity or other?

how does living/housing situation work out?
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Atavistic



Joined: 22 May 2006
Location: How totally stupid that Korean doesn't show in this area.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did NOT go to grad school in Korea while teaching, but I did go to grad school full time while I was a first year teacher.

It was hell, but it worked.

If you're determined, it'll work.
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togoastray



Joined: 27 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
How is it handling the coursework and the teaching?


If you work 20 hours or less a week (including prep time) it is easily doable.

Quote:
Do schedules conflict smuch?


Depends if you have to schedule your classes around work or work around classes. If the former is the case you might not be able to take some classes that you would want to.
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OiGirl



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: Hoke-y-gun

PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 4:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you plan to be a student with permission to work, or a teacher with permission to study?
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seouldivah



Joined: 12 Feb 2008
Location: Nowon gu-Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 4:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I attend grad. school in Korea, and work full time at a Uni. I am taking this semester off due to some major surgery that I underwent during winter. My job is very good in that they allow me to teach according to my grad. school schedule. I am on an E2/D2 visa, and my job is very supportive with my attending grad. school. The course work reading content is very intense, with assignments, summaries and group projects scheduled weekly by all professors. When I studied and worked full time last semester, I had no time to socialize or pursue hobbies like reading novels and watching movies. It was really difficult to keep up at times because my peers are full time students and have more time to study and read up on course work than I. But I managed to hold my own, asked my professors for help whenever I missed classes and such. As for housing, I moved closer to the subway so that I would be close to both my job and grad. school. Driving to grad. school proved more stressful due to traffic jams and the general mayhem that transpires during peak hours. Although I am taking this semester off from grad. school, I am concentrating on Korean studies to keep myself in sync with studies for when I return to grad school this Fall.
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ImInKoreaAintI



Joined: 12 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

seouldivah wrote:
I attend grad. school in Korea, and work full time at a Uni. I am taking this semester off due to some major surgery that I underwent during winter. My job is very good in that they allow me to teach according to my grad. school schedule. I am on an E2/D2 visa, and my job is very supportive with my attending grad. school. The course work reading content is very intense, with assignments, summaries and group projects scheduled weekly by all professors. When I studied and worked full time last semester, I had no time to socialize or pursue hobbies like reading novels and watching movies. It was really difficult to keep up at times because my peers are full time students and have more time to study and read up on course work than I. But I managed to hold my own, asked my professors for help whenever I missed classes and such. As for housing, I moved closer to the subway so that I would be close to both my job and grad. school. Driving to grad. school proved more stressful due to traffic jams and the general mayhem that transpires during peak hours. Although I am taking this semester off from grad. school, I am concentrating on Korean studies to keep myself in sync with studies for when I return to grad school this Fall.



A qusetions about that. What did you study/major in? and Did you attend one of the SKY(Seoul National, Korea or Yonsei Universities) or did you attend a smaller school? And Im assuming all of your classes were in English right?

Thanks
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ImInKoreaAintI



Joined: 12 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OiGirl wrote:
Do you plan to be a student with permission to work, or a teacher with permission to study?


Well, I am currently teaching English in rural Korea and would really like to obtain an MA in Seoul next year. During my studies, I'd like to teach English somewhere to help pay for living expenses and tuition.

I currently hold an F series visa.
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