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ISP cancels internet for p2p users

 
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SuperHero



Joined: 10 Dec 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 3:16 pm    Post subject: ISP cancels internet for p2p users Reply with quote

ISP cancels internet for p2p users

This is definitely a bad precedent

THE YOMIURI SHIMBUN wrote:
According to the new agreement, copyright organizations would notify providers of Internet protocol addresses used by those who repeatedly make copies illegally, using special detection software. The providers would then send warning e-mails to the users based on the IP addresses of the computers used to connect to the Internet. If contacted users did not then stop their illegal copying, the providers would temporarily disconnect them from the Internet for a specified period of time or cancel their service-provision contracts.
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pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would never happen here in Korea. The ISP's would lose so many customers. And the 1 ISP who doesn't cut people off will be the one everyone flocks too.

It wouldn't happen in the US either. Comcast is getting a LOT of heat for even throttling BT traffic.
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Mr. Pink



Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: China

PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korea has unlimited bandwidth.

Hell, Hanaro's English website sells their highend packages as being for downloading movies...do they think we need 80-100Mbit lines to steam video we pay for? They know what's going on...

Never happen in Korea.

It sucks though that ISPs in North America are screwing with Torrents. In Canada both Roger's and Cogeco block seeding of Torrents...wonder if they realized that for 60-80 bux a month, users should be able to do whatever the hell they want with their bandwidth.
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SuperHero



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr. Pink wrote:
Never happen in Korea.

Never say "never"

I agree that it is unlikely for the foreseeable future. But eventually people will look back at our times and compare them to the lawlessness of the wild west.
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wormholes101



Joined: 11 Mar 2003

PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SuperHero wrote:
...eventually people will look back at our times and compare them to the lawlessness of the wild west.


...and Big Brother will have arrived. Confused
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idonojacs



Joined: 07 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just out of curiosity, is it technologically possible?

A) Not every computer user has a unique IP address. As I understand it, in some of these big apartment houses several people, perhaps the whole floor, share a modem. Anyone know if this is correct? This could be why Korea doesn't even try to enforce this stuff.

B) You can mask your IP address.

C) You can go to a PC bang.

D) In the States, you can tap into a wifi provider.
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Juregen



Joined: 30 May 2006

PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 1:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I worked for an ISP, and we were already tracking what people were downloading.

Even though your IP is not fixed, every time you use it, it gets connected to a user in a database. With this database they can track how much you are downloading.

They just need to identify people going over 2 GB.
Once those people are identified, you can check their actual packages and information can be gathered on what you are downloading.

Since this is illegal ..... in most countries, ISP's don't use it blatantly, only those who really abuse the system get the beat down. that meant 1 or 2 people per week.
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blackjack



Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: anyang

PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr. Pink wrote:
Korea has unlimited bandwidth.

Hell, Hanaro's English website sells their highend packages as being for downloading movies...do they think we need 80-100Mbit lines to steam video we pay for? They know what's going on...

Never happen in Korea.

It sucks though that ISPs in North America are screwing with Torrents. In Canada both Roger's and Cogeco block seeding of Torrents...wonder if they realized that for 60-80 bux a month, users should be able to do whatever the hell they want with their bandwidth.


Just be glad that NA doesn't have what Australia/NZ have Datacaps 20gigs a month up and down and not allowed to buy more data (okay not all plans have that but most if not all have datacaps) and after you you have reached your cap, dial-up speeds
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SHANE02



Joined: 04 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 7:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes NZ internet is a joke. The goverment was blithering on about the "Knowledge Economy" ten years ago, and still there is pretty much one company owning the network.

Oh wait there's hope. This is from a MARCH 2008 news article:

InternetNZ today welcomed news that the number of broadband subscribers has overtaken their dial-up counterparts, but said broadband connections were still too slow.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=5&objectid=10496551

Oh my god! It's a wonder there are any NZ based websites with the overcharging, capping, and throttling that goes on.


As for free downloads, they will never die. Very Happy
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idonojacs



Joined: 07 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 12:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has anyone been hassled in Korea for downloading torrents?

Any ESL teachers?

Does your school care if you bring in stuff from torrents, share them?
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Demophobe



Joined: 17 May 2004

PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 1:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

idonojacs wrote:
Has anyone been hassled in Korea for downloading torrents?

Any ESL teachers?

Does your school care if you bring in stuff from torrents, share them?


http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=77937&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=
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