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nomad-ish



Joined: 08 Oct 2007
Location: On the bottom of the food chain

PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 7:28 pm    Post subject: just a little panic here... Reply with quote

helpful insight much appreciated.

i told my school i was leaving earlier than i am (so i could get reimbursed for my airfare.. the whole 10 days deal), in the meanwhile i booked a trip to thailand to arrive back in korea after the date i was supposed to have left for home. i told the travel agency to mail the print ticket to my home address, tough time, it didn't work, so i had it mailed to my school. i just picked it up and i noticed that it had been opened at the top and resealed with clear tape. what's the deal? do you think maybe the mail office or the travel agency opened it (when it was returned to them)? also do the envelopes at xanadu have something along the lines of "air ticket" written on them?? my school seemed to know it was an air ticket...

advice? i've been waiting over 2 weeks to get reimbursed for my airfare home, and now i think i may be *beep* out of luck. is it legal for your employer to open your mail?
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crescent



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: yes.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It could have been opened by the person who it was delivered to first. Or it could have been opened by the agency when they received it undelivered the first time.

Anyway, why would you not be reimbursed because of this?


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poet13



Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They owe you airfare home. That's part of contract. I don't see how what you do with the rest of your life has anything to do with them.
Now, you lied.... That makes things difficult, but when it comes down to it, they owe you airfare. They might turn around and say, "We'll pay one way to Thailand." using the equal or lesser distance method. Don't know.

I don't think it's legal for them to open your mail. They did that with mine, and when I asked, they said, "Oh sorry, we didn't know it was for you." I called bullshit, cause there wasn't a bit of Korean on the envelope. I said, "Next time it happens, I will file a complaint with the post office." Big eyes. Promised it wouldn't happen again. Now of course, when I receive something, it's handed to me, and invariably someone stands there waiting and says, "Aren't you going to open it?" "Uh, no."
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nomad-ish



Joined: 08 Oct 2007
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^ unfortunately my contract says basically, i must use the airfare home within 10 days of my last day of work. so yes, i lied. my school has not been good to me this year, and if i tried to make a deal with them about getting return airfare to thailand instead, i would've kissed that money goodbye... well, looks like i might be kissing that money goodbye anyhow. Crying or Very sad

i'll wait and see what happens, hopefully it was the mail office that opened it
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poet13



Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm guessing here, but is airfare a government mandate? It could be to keep unemployed foreigners from piling up. If it is, then the contract language would be invalid. If it isn't, you may then be out of luck.
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JongnoGuru



Joined: 25 May 2004
Location: peeing on your doorstep

PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nomad-ish wrote:
is it legal for your employer to open your mail?

poet13 wrote:
I don't think it's legal for them to open your mail.

Ahhh, don'cha just love how Korea gets us all questioning the most basic certainties and assumptions of life! Is up down, is left right, is wrong right? Fact is, it's illegal, fact is I don't know a long-term expat who this hasn't happened to, and fact is, or at least seems to be, the very worst a Korean culprit ever need fear is a scolding.

The Missing Manual for Korea Newbies needs updating:

1. Leave your drug habit at home
2. Pack an extra sense of humour
3. Don't lend money to locals
4. Seriously, don't do it
5. Unless you plan to share news & edibles from home, personal financial info, and other juicy confidential tidbits with your K-coworkers, do NOT use your office as your mailing address


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poet13



Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, even with the most outrageous things, I find myself questioning the legality.

He's not THAT drunk, and maybe if he stays on the sidewalk, and doesn't get out of 2nd gear, it's ok...
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Atavistic



Joined: 22 May 2006
Location: How totally stupid that Korean doesn't show in this area.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JongnoGuru wrote:

5. Unless you plan to share news & edibles from home, personal financial info, and other juicy confidential tidbits with your K-coworkers, do NOT use your office as your mailing address


I use my public school's address all the time. They've never opened my mail, I don't open it in front of them, I don't share packages with them. They may be nosy--they ARE nosy--but I give them nothing.

Now, I never would've trusted my first or second employers like that. In fact, I'm pretty sure my second employer was stealing mail from my HOUSE. While working at both of those places, I used a friend's address for everything.
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nomad-ish



Joined: 08 Oct 2007
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Atavistic wrote:
JongnoGuru wrote:

5. Unless you plan to share news & edibles from home, personal financial info, and other juicy confidential tidbits with your K-coworkers, do NOT use your office as your mailing address


I use my public school's address all the time. They've never opened my mail, I don't open it in front of them, I don't share packages with them. They may be nosy--they ARE nosy--but I give them nothing.

Now, I never would've trusted my first or second employers like that. In fact, I'm pretty sure my second employer was stealing mail from my HOUSE. While working at both of those places, I used a friend's address for everything.


i tried first sending it to my home address, but apparently the mail man couldn't find it (i've had other small things sent there and the address was ok). for packages, i use my school address and i've never had a problem with them opening stuff.

if they did open my letter, it was because they saw it was from a travel agency in korea and were suspicious.... i'm still hoping they weren't the ones who opened it. i'll just have to wait and see what happens. holding my breath a little now
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use my public school address quite often for receiving mail. I've never had a problem with that. To the contrary, the nice cute school secretary brings my mail up to my office when it comes in.

But then, I've never attempted to defraud my public school either.
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nomad-ish



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CentralCali wrote:
I use my public school address quite often for receiving mail. I've never had a problem with that. To the contrary, the nice cute school secretary brings my mail up to my office when it comes in.

But then, I've never attempted to defraud my public school either.


i would've played by the rules if my school had in the beginning. they didn't pay me for some extra class and OT.
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Public school? There's a chain of resolution for stuff like that. Start at the school and keep going up to the provincial/metropolitan city Office of Education.
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billybrobby



Joined: 09 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

poet13 wrote:
I said, "Next time it happens, I will file a complaint with the post office." Big eyes.


pffft. possibly the gayest threat i've ever heard. what's gonna happen? the postmaster general is gonna send in some tanks?
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nomad-ish



Joined: 08 Oct 2007
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 11:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^^ tried, they played a technicality on the extra classes (told me the real reason, then changed it when the girl at the board contacted them). as for the OT, the school said they didn't have money for it so that if i wanted it i'd have to collect directly from the english teachers that attended my teacher workshops... and of course, i wouldn't do that (make them pay out of pocket for a mandatory class)

anyways, thanks for the replies (i think there's a good chance that the mail office opened it when they couldn't find the address, and since i haven't heard anything all day from my co-teacher about it, i'm thinking it's ok)
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poet13



Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"poet13 wrote:
I said, "Next time it happens, I will file a complaint with the post office." Big eyes.


pffft. possibly the gayest threat i've ever heard. what's gonna happen? the postmaster general is gonna send in some tanks?"


Would the US or Canada "send in tanks"? No, but they have their recourses. In this country, of any country, people hate it when other people tread on their turf. People screwing with the mail is considered pretty serious. At least according to a former student who was some kind of post office branch manager.
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