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scorpiocandy



Joined: 27 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 1:45 am    Post subject: "for" and "since" Reply with quote

Hi,

I was hoping somebody could help me with an idea of how to teach the concepts of "for" and "since".

The kids' English level is not really that great and my Korean is worse than their English. So I introduced the words with examples and they seem to get it but I need a way to make it stick.

Any ideas? I'd appreciate your input.

Thanks
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oskinny1



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 5:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since is for a specific date- Since February...Since 1812...

For is a length of time- For 5 years...For 3 seconds.

Maybe find a way to show them that.
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Ilsanman



Joined: 15 Aug 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 5:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always say:

for = some amount of time. Often a number, but sometimes not (for a long time)

since = a starting time. Often 'last week', '1985'.

Give many examples.
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scorpiocandy



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 6:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yea that's kind of how I laid out my examples so I hope it stuck. We'll see tomorrow.

Thanks for the replies Smile
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pdxsteve



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 7:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had success with teaching "for" as being "how long have you been doing something?" (I've been studying for 3 hours!) and "since" as "when did you start doing something?" (I've been studying since 5:00!)
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shantaram



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it hasn't already occurred to you, you should be aware that you'll need to teach the present perfect tense so they can appropriately use 'for' and 'since';

"I have been teaching for five years."
"I have been teaching since 2002."

The other two applications of the present perfect tense are 1) you use it to show something happened sometime in the past, e.g. "I have taught in Korea." 2) you use it to show something happened in the past that is connected to the present, e.g. "I have finished."
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scorpiocandy



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

shantaram wrote:
If it hasn't already occurred to you, you should be aware that you'll need to teach the present perfect tense so they can appropriately use 'for' and 'since';

"I have been teaching for five years."
"I have been teaching since 2002."

The other two applications of the present perfect tense are 1) you use it to show something happened sometime in the past, e.g. "I have taught in Korea." 2) you use it to show something happened in the past that is connected to the present, e.g. "I have finished."



Well we've done the present perfect tense, so luckily I don't have THAT headache on top of this one Smile

Thanks for all the suggestions.
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oskinny1



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

shantaram wrote:
If it hasn't already occurred to you, you should be aware that you'll need to teach the present perfect tense so they can appropriately use 'for' and 'since';

"I have been teaching for five years."
"I have been teaching since 2002."

The other two applications of the present perfect tense are 1) you use it to show something happened sometime in the past, e.g. "I have taught in Korea." 2) you use it to show something happened in the past that is connected to the present, e.g. "I have finished."


I an see that for "since", but not always for "for".

"I waited for four hours."
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